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who will u vote for in 2005???

who will you vote for??

  • conservative

    Votes: 17 27.0%
  • labour

    Votes: 28 44.4%
  • liberal democrats

    Votes: 18 28.6%

  • Total voters
    63


Tom Bombadil

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2003
6,107
Jibrovia
I feel there isn't a party with a realistic chance of power that broadly represents my views.
Under Tony Blair the Labour party continues to drift right in the pursuit of the Daily Mail vote.

The liberal party remains well intentioned but you wouldn't trust it's leaders to actually run anything. Plus it has a disturbing libertarian faction who could seek to take social policy to the right of the Tories

I couldn't bring myself to vote for a party that considers Michael Howard a unanamous choice for leader. They seem to have learnt nothing in opposition.

Sadly the other parties seem to me to be single issue groups.
 




Titanic

Super Moderator
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,929
West Sussex
In my finest Peter Snow voice...

It's just a bit of fun, I know, but if the whole country voted the same way as NSC, the House of Commons would look like this...

<some little blue figures appear on the opposition benches>

Mr Howard, who only just held on to one of the safest Tory seats in the country, leads the rump of the Tory party, with just 70 seats - their smallest number of MPs in history, ever!

<a few more little orangey-yellow figures appear on the opposition benches>

The Liberal Democrats form Her Majesty's official opposition with their largest ever representation in the House of Commons, 72 seats - largely as a result of tactical voting in Tory marginal seats.

<loads and loads of red figures appear on govt benches...and spill over into the empty opposition benches>

and a triumphant Tony Blair leads the Labour Government with MASSIVE 491 MPS.

So, despite the desperately low turn out figure of 47.1%, and with just 43.4% of the vote, Prime Minister Blair now commands the largest majority in Parliamentary history of 323.

As I said, It's just a bit of fun :nono:
 






Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,122
Haywards Heath
bhaexpress said:
Not George Bush !

Agreed.

I still can't believe, after all these years, that Ronald Reagan was president!


For Two Terms! :eek:
 






US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
4,665
Cleveland, OH
Westdene Seagull said:
A predictable yet ignorant comment that shows no real understanding of the party.

UKIP = The softer side of xenophobia

Try learning something about the world instead of trying to shut it out for a change.
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,953
Surrey
I'll vote either Lib Dems or Labour depending on who is more likely to keep the Tories out.

But faced with a straight choice between the two, I'd go for the Lib Dems every time.
 


3gulls

Banned
Jul 26, 2004
2,403
Simster said:
I'll vote either Lib Dems or Labour depending on who is more likely to keep the Tories out.

But faced with a straight choice between the two, I'd go for the Lib Dems every time.

How can voting Lib-Dem or whoever they are this week be the "straight" choice? Bunch of shirt-lifters who gave us that cu*t Bellotti! :shootself
 


bigc

New member
Jul 5, 2003
5,740
Lib Dems are tories in disguise..well some of them

Bono's speech which was just at the labour party conference shows why they are still the only party with a true conscience(well, some of them anyway), not completely self-serving
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
US Seagull said:
UKIP = The softer side of xenophobia

Try learning something about the world instead of trying to shut it out for a change.

Not wanting to be part of the EU has nothing to do with xenophobia.

Try learning something about a political party before making sweeping generalisations.

Strange how black and white some people see things :

Tories = BAD
Labour = GOOD
UKIP = BNP

It just isn't that easy.
 


Jul 24, 2003
2,289
Newbury, Berkshire.
I asked David Rendell, Lib Dem MP for Newbury to sign the EDM in favour of Falmer - he refused, saying the issue has to be decided on planning issues alone. I didn't think that was a good enough answer, as he hasn't represented my wishes in Parliament.

He is in favour of banning fox hunting. I don't care one way or the other.

I don't really give a sh*t about Iraq, so I don't care what his view is there.

He is a good local MP, but the Council tax has virtually doubled over 10 years, under a Lib Dem local Unitary authority. They will introduce local income tax, which will give them an excuse to raise taxes much much higher than Labour have done.

I don't know if I will be voting Tory, & Labour have no chance of winning here.

But you can all vote Tory in Lewes with my blessing !

I think I'll vote Labour, just for a laugh.
 


Tom Bombadil

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2003
6,107
Jibrovia
Westdene, what would the benefit be of leaving the EU. Presuming you foresee a relationship similar to the Norwegians or Swiss wouldn't that entail a total loss of influence whilst still haveing to comply with huge amounts of EU legislation.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,953
Surrey
3gulls said:
How can voting Lib-Dem or whoever they are this week be the "straight" choice? Bunch of shirt-lifters who gave us that cu*t Bellotti! :shootself
And Norman Baker.

Still, neither are in my constituency. And I'm sure I could quite easily provide you with a list of absolute tossers who have run for Labour in the past. Bernie Grant and Derek Hatton for example.

Oh, and I don't recall the Lib Dems advocating sending our troops to risk their lives for an illegal war. At the end of the day, decisions like that matter more than an otherwise decent MP foolishly voting against the Falmer Stadium.

As for David Bellotti, I know of a relatively prominent Albion fan and LibDem member who has done quite a bit to ensure Bellotti's LibDem career remains in neutral.
 


US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
4,665
Cleveland, OH
Westdene Seagull said:
Not wanting to be part of the EU has nothing to do with xenophobia.

No, it has everything to do it with it. It's that small minded, little England, cricket on the village green, cucumber sandwiches, pinning for the days of empire ("at least we gave them law and order") bullshit that holds the whole country back. It's the 21st Century and the empire is a distant memory. The world is a different place. Stop clinging to you old fasioned ideas of what it means to be British and get over it.
The UKIP wants to turn the clock backwards, and that isn't healthy. Just looking at their website you can see all the talk of the "good old days" when kids respected their elders and the law enforcement was a good clip round the ear from the friendly local bobby.
 


Jul 5, 2003
12,644
Chertsey
US Seagull said:
No, it has everything to do it with it. It's that small minded, little England, cricket on the village green, cucumber sandwiches, pinning for the days of empire ("at least we gave them law and order") bullshit that holds the whole country back. It's the 21st Century and the empire is a distant memory. The world is a different place. Stop clinging to you old fasioned ideas of what it means to be British and get over it.
The UKIP wants to turn the clock backwards, and that isn't healthy. Just looking at their website you can see all the talk of the "good old days" when kids respected their elders and the law enforcement was a good clip round the ear from the friendly local bobby.

Absolutely. The sooner GB gets out of our "island-mentality" the better
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,830
Uffern
Westdene Seagull said:
Not wanting to be part of the EU has nothing to do with xenophobia.

Try learning something about a political party before making sweeping generalisations.

Strange how black and white some people see things :

Tories = BAD
Labour = GOOD
UKIP = BNP

It just isn't that easy.

At the council election, I had election literature through my door from the BNP and the UKIP. The first four items on the both leaflets were identical and the policies were pretty much the same. The UKIP=BNP, it is that easy.

I don't even think that the UKIP is BNP-Lite. The middle-classes vote UKIP and the working classes vote BNP, but the politics are identical. Perhaps you should learn something about a political party before you start saying you're going to vote for them.
 




bigc

New member
Jul 5, 2003
5,740
yeah UKIP are BNP watered down

and yeah I do know what I'm talking about, my dad has taught politics for 18 years.
 


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