Who is the worst type of Tory?

[Yes Chef]

I don't think Tories give a monkeys about Corbyn now that he has gone, however, the Labour Party will be repairing the damage that he did to the party for for quite some time to come and I dare say his name comes up quite frequently behind the scenes.

Since this thread was bounced yesterday, Corbyn is mentioned 14 times and Starmer 4 times.

And yes, I am bored.

 

[Chicken Run]

Starmer 4 times.

And yes, I am bored.

Who?


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[Dick Swiveller]

Is the right answer.

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However, 16 pages so far and only one mention of Timmy? People, you're letting yourselves down here.

Do they still let him play with them? Losing Withdean was like Putin losing an election.

 

[stewart12]

To turn this thread around slightly and give it more balance , what’s the worst type of labour MP.

Is it the type who blindly followed Corbyn & his extreme socialist charter , happy to pour scorn on Jewish people or anyone else they felt didn’t agree with their form of extreme left wing mindset . A labour supporter who has distaste for our monarchy , wants to ultimately get rid of or at the very least dramatically reduce our armed forces , someone who thinks the harder you work and the more successful you are , then You should be crippled with far higher tax rates . Someone who is happy to give more money to people who don’t work but could work because it buys their vote in the next election . Someone who wants to re Nationalise many of our services and so create havoc and go back to the strikes of the late 70’s. Someone who supports extremist groups that preach killings but again as it wins them votes with a section of our ethnic community , we don’t worry about what moral example that shows . I could go on and on but I won’t .

Suffice to say the worst type of labour MP or labour follower under Corbyn was 10 x more extreme than the worst type of Tory .

Fingers crossed under a more decent person who actually has decent morals like Keir , all the extreme labour MP’s will be slowly weeded out . Not that I guess it matters all that much because no one other than soppy students, militants , socialist workers and the great unwashed actually voted for them anyway .

there was a thread made for this kind of post- find it and **** off over to it

 

[Blue3]

There are no good Tories these days the ones who were at least acceptable have all gone what we have now are the foaming at the mouth self serving right wing bigots the true nasty party

 

[Eeyore]

To turn this thread around slightly and give it more balance , what’s the worst type of labour MP.

Is it the type who blindly followed Corbyn & his extreme socialist charter , happy to pour scorn on Jewish people or anyone else they felt didn’t agree with their form of extreme left wing mindset . A labour supporter who has distaste for our monarchy , wants to ultimately get rid of or at the very least dramatically reduce our armed forces , someone who thinks the harder you work and the more successful you are , then You should be crippled with far higher tax rates . Someone who is happy to give more money to people who don’t work but could work because it buys their vote in the next election . Someone who wants to re Nationalise many of our services and so create havoc and go back to the strikes of the late 70’s. Someone who supports extremist groups that preach killings but again as it wins them votes with a section of our ethnic community , we don’t worry about what moral example that shows . I could go on and on but I won’t .

Suffice to say the worst type of labour MP or labour follower under Corbyn was 10 x more extreme than the worst type of Tory .

Fingers crossed under a more decent person who actually has decent morals like Keir , all the extreme labour MP’s will be slowly weeded out . Not that I guess it matters all that much because no one other than soppy students, militants , socialist workers and the great unwashed actually voted for them anyway .

How was Corbyn planning an 'extreme socialist charter' ?

 

[albion534]

My favourite Tory excuse to cover for how badly Boris is doing is
Imagine if Corbyn was in charge
He’s not. Boris is and he’s been a flipping shambles from the moment he took over, how anyone can think he’s doing a good job is beyond me.


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[Herr Tubthumper]

Hmmmmmmmmm

 

[Machiavelli]

I'll go for 'All of the Above' with the exception of the 'One Nation Tory'.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'll go for 'All of the Above' with the exception of the 'One Nation Tory'.

They need to speak out a lot more imho.

 

[HH Brighton]

The current Tory party reflect the move in this country to 'no policy politics'. Unless people are engaged in politics they tend to rely on sound bite headlines to make their decision. The start of the dumbing down was when the EU referendum was announced and we allowed people to vote on a subject with no facts to make a proper decision. Since then its got worse and we've ended up with a right wing, racist and bigoted government running the country with a huge majority to do what they want. Sad times.

 

[zefarelly]

The current Tory party reflect the move in this country to 'no policy politics'. Unless people are engaged in politics they tend to rely on sound bite headlines to make their decision. The start of the dumbing down was when the EU referendum was announced and we allowed people to vote on a subject with no facts to make a proper decision. Since then its got worse and we've ended up with a right wing, racist and bigoted government running the country with a huge majority to do what they want. Sad times.

And thats just the good bits.

 

[dejavuatbtn]

It all went tits up when the Labour Party voted in Ed Milliband instead of his brother as their leader. It has led to political parties letting anyone loose and just look at what there is there to choose from from any side.
We have run out of proper leaders, and who can blame decent people for not putting their heads above the parapet.

 

[Glawstergull]

I don't identify with or align myself to a political party called the Tory party. Many of my views would be considered conservative.(small c is on purpose).
Do i care about the poor, the needy, the disabled, state schoolchildren, the ill and the hungry yes and i show it by earning as much as i legally and morally can and then paying a load of tax.
I don't demonize those that then wear a badge that is various shades of red i just disagree with them.
All this talk of hateful Tories by a bunch that hate them is exactly the hypocrisy that gets us no further forward or together.

 

[perseus]

A right wing liberal like Boris
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

 

[amexer]

The current Tory party reflect the move in this country to 'no policy politics'. Unless people are engaged in politics they tend to rely on sound bite headlines to make their decision. The start of the dumbing down was when the EU referendum was announced and we allowed people to vote on a subject with no facts to make a proper decision. Since then its got worse and we've ended up with a right wing, racist and bigoted government running the country with a huge majority to do what they want. Sad times.

No Policy Politics At last election Labour had plenty of policies and promised everything but still didnt get in. I have voted over the years for both but would say whatever party was in power dealing with Brexit and Covid would struggle. Maybe a chance many out there think they havent dealt with these too badly. I will make my judgement of this government in next 2 years when hopefully Covid etc thing of the past.
So many very anti Tory on here. May I ask when a government has had to deal with such 2 major things since the war why havent your Labour party made any headway.

 

[Machiavelli]

A right wing liberal like Boris
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

A few things on this:
-- I'm not entirely sure Johnson is a right liberal (at least not consistently -- mind you, consistency is hardly his strong point, he has self-described as a 'Brexity Hezza')
-- the classification of liberal doesn't feature on that measure
-- such grids/axes are becoming increasingly consolidated, I think there are big conceptual problems with them
-- I came out pretty firmly in the left libertarian camp. My hunch is that you also came out firmly in the libertarian camp, but not entirely convinced on the (in my view, wrong) left-right scale.

 

[Pint of Ale and a Burger]

A few things on this:
-- I'm not entirely sure Johnson is a right liberal (at least not consistently -- mind you, consistency is hardly his strong point, he has self-described as a 'Brexity Hezza')
-- the classification of liberal doesn't feature on that measure
-- such grids/axes are becoming increasingly consolidated, I think there are big conceptual problems with them
-- I came out pretty firmly in the left libertarian camp. My hunch is that you also came out firmly in the libertarian camp, but not entirely convinced on the (in my view, wrong) left-right scale.

Yes,I also was firmly in the leftwing libertarian camp and whole answering the questions it did cross my mind if everyone will end up in the left wing libertarian section.

 

[beorhthelm]

The current Tory party reflect the move in this country to 'no policy politics'. Unless people are engaged in politics they tend to rely on sound bite headlines to make their decision.

i observe that politics itself has come to rely on sound bites and headlines. example, when the leader of the opposition makes a photo op with wallpaper to draw attention to the story about the PM excessive decorating expenses. as issues facing the country this is beneath trivial, yet consumed politics for a week or two. this started decades but accelerated with social media, politics and policy debased to memes.

 

[m@goo]

For me it's the working class Tory, which seems a bit of a paradox. I suspect it's about wanting to give the impression that you're middle class and to a degree wealthy when you're not. It's about image. They are the reason for and the enablers of the elite, racist, corrupt government we have now.