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The most curious thing..
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But wouldn't "Paychobilly" come under the subculture of Rockabilly being a subculture within that subculture. If I'd listed the subcultures within the subcultures the list would have been too exhaustive. I didn't just omit Paychobilly I also omitted Psychobilly both of which I presume would come under the Rockabilly banner. If I am wrong I apologise. To be honest I wasn't even aware of Paychobilly. When did that emerge? Is it a subculture of psychobilly who are also upwardly mobile professionals?
My definition/underdtanding of gabba is perhaps different to yours then but pretty 220BPM - HMS and the like, you call that hardcore? (where do you call that hardcore out of interest). Used to sometimes wander into a "gabba" (by my definition/hardcore by yours) room at events and like it for an hour or two tops - ****in dangerous trying to do an all nighter dancing to that!
Thanks for the link
Gabba originated from Germany (originally called Gabba house) and the BPM is much lower, around the 160-170 mark, tends to be more like dance/trance but with distorted kicks. Hardcore is Dutch in origin and can vary from 170-220bpm but anything faster and you're getting into the realm of speedcore and terror, that stuff is crazy though, top end of that is 600+BPM which is too mental for me. Much like jungle back in the day which spawned drum n bass, breakbeat, jump up, even dubstep and garage to a degree, hardcore/Gabba evolved into loads of different styles too.
I think the MCs of that era started mistakingly calling it Gabba and it just stuck.
Used to do all nighters to that stuff (maybe slightly "assisted") all the time, met some bizarre characters over the years, never a dull night though.
I remember being in the North Stand early seventies and almost everyone dressed in that way....surprisingly few of us left?
Surely scooter boys were Mods?
I remember having a (brief) conversation with a fully Quadrophenia'd up look-alike in the Lanchester Polytechnic SU Bar in 1981 when I pointed out he was almost 10 years too late to be a genuine Mod and he got a bit upset.
I never felt I was a Rocker and that it was the 1960s, even when I was riding Norton Dominators and Commandos back then. All a bit like military re-enactment societies pretending to be Cavaliers and Roundheads I thought...
Gabba originated from Germany (originally called Gabba house) and the BPM is much lower, around the 160-170 mark, tends to be more like dance/trance but with distorted kicks. Hardcore is Dutch in origin and can vary from 170-220bpm but anything faster and you're getting into the realm of speedcore and terror, that stuff is crazy though, top end of that is 600+BPM which is too mental for me. Much like jungle back in the day which spawned drum n bass, breakbeat, jump up, even dubstep and garage to a degree, hardcore/Gabba evolved into loads of different styles too.
I think the MCs of that era started mistakingly calling it Gabba and it just stuck.
Used to do all nighters to that stuff (maybe slightly "assisted") all the time, met some bizarre characters over the years, never a dull night though.
Scooter Boys were again not mods, they dressed in army combats, flight jacket and docs maybe had flat tops or quiffs they also either put more extravagant paintings on their scooters or chopped them like big bikes for a laugh.
They even to this day have different rallies , with a more varied musical taste available other than soul, Motown or the who and the likes playing, anything from Bad manners, Spear of Destiny, King Kurt and Tenpole Tuder basically it was not up it's own arse like the mod scene was.
Thanks for that, honestly never heard of that subset before. When I lived oop north & in the midlands it was all faux mods who rode scooters - was it a southern thing that stayed where it started?
No a lot of the northern towns had scooter clubs, and most of the rallies were actually up Norf like Morecombe, Southport, Skegness etc
I was in a several scooter clubs back in the mid/late 80s in Wigan, Stockport and Ormskirk we would have upwards to 30-40 members paying subs and going off on jollies causing mayhem. We did not like the mods, and they in turn did not like us *******ising the scooters and scene so they split.
WTF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ5uAWUQ4Yk 900+ BPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlRo62RjuGY&list=RDmlRo62RjuGY&t=4 100k BPM
Thanks I though "Gabba"/Hardcore was ridiculous this is bizarre!!!!
Definitely rave.
Started listening to jungle techno when I was about 11, old tapes of Fantazia, Dreamscape, Fusion, World Dance etc. Jungle techno gave birth to jungle, breakbeat, happy hardcore, hardcore etc, I can't imagine even now I'm coming up to 40 that I will ever listen to anything other than hardcore and a bit of drum n bass.
Used to go to Stern's, travelled all over the country with mates and sometimes my brother's to attend raves.
Helter Skelter was always my place to be though, I've always preferred the harder side of music so the Technodrome at the Sanctuary in Milton Keynes is where I spent most of my youth.