[Albion] When should Neal Maupay take another Albion penalty?

[GREASED WEASEL]

when we're already 3 nil up

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

I feel like he's the new ashley barnes of penalties. Yeah, he's missed a couple, but he's scored a few as well, but people only remember the ones he misses.

Only a 57% conversion rate for us in total including missing 2 out of his last 3. That's not great and especially when goals are so crucial to us when we're not taking our chances.

Barnes conversion rate for us was actually slightly better at 67% but the misses didn't feel as big as taking chances was obviously less of an issue then. As a comparison, Murray converted 77% of his penalties for us.

I don't think Maupay should be taking them, especially at the moment when for whatever reason he doesn't look right out there.

 

[studio150]

Trossard was close to taking over from Harley for the worst Albion penalty ever.

For Maupay, he can take his next one when we are winning by at least 3 with not long left on the clock.

 

[Swansman]

It is unbelievable how rapid the decline of Neal Maupay has been, After a good debut season and some decent form after the lockdown break and even a reasonable start this season, whatever led up to the 'training ground bust up' appears to have removed all confidence from him.

Given Potter is meant to be a great man manager and specialise in dealing with 'conflict' - then the way some of our previously star players are declining is very alarming.

Yeah the "Maupay turned shit after the bust-up" / "Maupay turned shit after the missed penalty" theories are strong among those who are obsessing the Potter-out-stuff, conveniently ignoring that he had poor spells last season as well and that his two games before the "bust-up" were arguably his worst this season and that some of his recent performances have been pretty good. He is not declining, he is on a rollercoaster. Is that Potter fault? Maybe. Others would argue its Maupays fault.

 

[Springal]

Yeah the "Maupay turned shit after the bust-up" / "Maupay turned shit after the missed penalty" theories are strong among those who are obsessing the Potter-out-stuff, conveniently ignoring that he had poor spells last season as well and that his two games before the "bust-up" were arguably his worst this season and that some of his recent performances have been pretty good. He is not declining, he is on a rollercoaster. Is that Potter fault? Maybe. Others would argue its Maupays fault.

Neal Maupay is not a bad player. His record in England tells us this in both the PL & Championship. In fact his debut season he was only 2 goals of Glenn Murray best ever PL scoring season so that should have been a good base to develop from. So I think we can rule out ability being the factor here. Of course he is playing for a 'bottom 6' team in the PL, and if he was 'a lot better' than this he would probably not be playing for Brighton.

So why can't Potter get more out of him? Why has Trossard declined significantly, yet still getting called up and played by Belgium who I think are ranked fairly well with FIFA at the moment? So many players look absolutely shot and devoid of confidence on the pitch

Not all bad - because Solly March is clearly thriving off the coaching and system he is playing in, but there are more players going backwards than forwards at the moment and that does lie with the head coach.

 

[Bozza]

Trossard was close to taking over from Harley for the worst Albion penalty ever.

For Maupay, he can take his next one when we are winning by at least 3 with not long left on the clock.

I'll file you under "never".

 

[Seasider78]

Yeah the "Maupay turned shit after the bust-up" / "Maupay turned shit after the missed penalty" theories are strong among those who are obsessing the Potter-out-stuff, conveniently ignoring that he had poor spells last season as well and that his two games before the "bust-up" were arguably his worst this season and that some of his recent performances have been pretty good. He is not declining, he is on a rollercoaster. Is that Potter fault? Maybe. Others would argue its Maupays fault.

It is not the performances that are bothering me as I agree he has had dips before it is the work rate that looks to have dropped and the body language.

He looks like he is going through the motions rather than that fire he had. That’s not blaming potter and his half time rant suggests it is still there inside but not seeing it in his play since those incidents.

For me he is at his best with a bit of edge when he is getting in defenders faces and having niggles which he seems to enjoy. Just not seeing the same spark that was there before but strikers are very much confidence players so could just be a dip.

Fingers crossed as we need him back to his best to drag us out of this situation.

 

[Yes Chef]

During the next pandemic

 

[maresfield seagull]

Only a 57% conversion rate for us in total including missing 2 out of his last 3. That's not great and especially when goals are so crucial to us when we're not taking our chances.

Barnes conversion rate for us was actually slightly better at 67% but the misses didn't feel as big as taking chances was obviously less of an issue then. As a comparison, Murray converted 77% of his penalties for us.

I don't think Maupay should be taking them, especially at the moment when for whatever reason he doesn't look right out there.

How do Pascal Tomer and Bobby’s stats stand up In comparison

 

[nicko31]

A player low on confidence.

Needs a break but don't write him off

 

[blue-shifted]

I was expecting him to blast it down the middle again. When watching back, I can't but help think when he started his run up and had the split seconds pause, he changed his mind in what he was going to do. Always fatal on a penalty kick.

And a clear indication of lack of confidence

 

[Swansman]

Neal Maupay is not a bad player. His record in England tells us this in both the PL & Championship. In fact his debut season he was only 2 goals of Glenn Murray best ever PL scoring season so that should have been a good base to develop from. So I think we can rule out ability being the factor here. Of course he is playing for a 'bottom 6' team in the PL, and if he was 'a lot better' than this he would probably not be playing for Brighton.

So why can't Potter get more out of him? Why has Trossard declined significantly, yet still getting called up and played by Belgium who I think are ranked fairly well with FIFA at the moment? So many players look absolutely shot and devoid of confidence on the pitch

Not all bad - because Solly March is clearly thriving off the coaching and system he is playing in, but there are more players going backwards than forwards at the moment and that does lie with the head coach.

Maupay had never scored 10 goals before Potter and Trossard had never made a cap for Belgium before Potter - yet those two reasons are why GP is at fault for them "not performing"?

I dont think any players are going backwards ability wise. Confidence wise they are not in a good state, which is what I believe to be the main cause of their sometimes lacklustre performances.

 

[Springal]

Maupay had never scored 10 goals before Potter and Trossard had never made a cap for Belgium before Potter - yet those two reasons are why GP is at fault for them "not performing"?

I dont think any players are going backwards ability wise. Confidence wise they are not in a good state, which is what I believe to be the main cause of their sometimes lacklustre performances.

Apart from the 28 goals for Brentford in 2018/2019, or 13 in 2017/2018... or....

 

[Sarisbury Seagull]

How do Pascal Tomer and Bobby’s stats stand up In comparison

Hemed scored 85% of his penalties for us, I'm struggling to get Bobby's stats though.

 

[blue-shifted]

How do Pascal Tomer and Bobby’s stats stand up In comparison

Isn't the more telling comparison, how to the main takers from comparable clubs (Newcastle, Palace Burnley) get on? That's who we're competing with.

 

[Icy Gull]

I feel sorry for Maupay, he reminds me of Gary Nelson in the last few months he was here. Absolutely nothing came off for him. I remember one game where he broke the offside trap and was running for a long ball to drop to him to run onto, it ended up hitting the back of his head and going backwards straight to an opposition player. Maupay is a good striker on a dreadful run of form with absolutely no confidence and his frustration is very clear to see. He’ll come back, mark my words. He has even scored a couple whilst on this run hasn’t he?

 

[blue-shifted]

Maupay had never scored 10 goals before Potter and Trossard had never made a cap for Belgium before Potter - yet those two reasons are why GP is at fault for them "not performing"?

I dont think any players are going backwards ability wise. Confidence wise they are not in a good state, which is what I believe to be the main cause of their sometimes lacklustre performances.

Does it matter what the cause is?

Whatever is making them play badly, they are playing badly. This isn't just for a game or two, this has been going on for the whole season

The manager either has to improve their confidence or ability (which he clearly isn't doing) or bring in other players who can do the job.

 

[Originunknown]

Never again for me, very poor from the spot and is clearly devoid of any confidence.

You need to believe you're going to score the penalty, don't see it in him.

 

[aolstudios]

Has to be Pascal or Davy now

 

[zefarelly]

Does it matter what the cause is?

Whatever is making them play badly, they are playing badly. This isn't just for a game or two, this has been going on for the whole season

The manager either has to improve their confidence or ability (which he clearly isn't doing) or bring in other players who can do the job.

But if you know the players can do the job, but are getting gradually worse then surely you have to question the manager ?