[Politics] What’s the best way to heal the North/South divide?

[Neville's Breakfast]

Not angry. Just very disappointed at the state of this country with so many being so gullible.

With so many disagreeing with you..
In life you do need to be able to cope with disagreement.

 

[Hastings gull]

Echo your thoughts and sympathise. A principled man who wanted something better for those less fortunate in our society, to tackle climate change and less foreign wars was smeared relentlessly from nearly all sides of the media. I agree it is depressing that people saw Boris and thought "I want more of that".

I too would have paid more tax but when we are in a society where there are 300,000 on the streets, the NHS is struggling, and schools can't afford pens, I don't mind paying more! All I would say is that Corbyn started a movement that isn't going away and will hopefully only get stronger with more a more politicised youth. With Brexit not an electoral factor anymore there is an opportunity for someone to further progressive ideas.

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Sounds so much like the old threads on immigration, when all sorts of lovely people said how they would take immigrants in, but never actually did. And as for your exaggerated statement about pens in schools, I can confirm, that last week whilst working with Year 6, I opened a whole new box of pens, with out any trouble. And yes, Corbyn's movement probably won't go away, as you say, but the lessons of last week are there for all to see, well, those who genuinely want to see, that is.

 

[Hastings gull]

Not angry. Just very disappointed at the state of this country with so many being so gullible.

yep; all those millions of stupid people lacking your foresight.

 

[GOM]

I spoke to a Northerner just before polling day and he was genuinely under the impression that Corbyn was our PM. I asked him how on Earth he could be under that impression. He confusedly explained that things were really bad in the U.K. and he had heard loads of bad stuff about Corbyn. So he thought he’d vote Johnson in for a change.
I’ve heard some thick reasons for voting Tory but that had to top the lot.

Edit: correction, he didn’t think Corbyn was PM he thought he had some kind of joint power and was making decisions for the U.K. I guess he sort of thought he was voting to get rid of Corbyn and let Johnson go ahead on his own. Or something. He was a rather confused and confusing individual.

I think that he was a northerner is probably irrelevant. He sounds like a very confused person that could have come from anywhere. And it's nice to know that you speak to northerners, where oop north were you when you spoke to him ?

 

[Horses Arse]

With so many disagreeing with you..
In life you do need to be able to cope with disagreement.

Yes you do, you are absolutely right.

If by some miracle all works out well, the country prospers, the North prospers and the lies, deceit and hatred were all some bizarre distraction required to move forward positively then I would be absolutely delighted to be wrong. It would please me no end. Fingers crossed that all the indications to the contrary are wrong.

Gonna have to get on with the work in front of my I'm afraid.

Tara all

 

[borat]

Yes you do, you are absolutely right.

If by some miracle all works out well, the country prospers, the North prospers and the lies, deceit and hatred were all some bizarre distraction required to move forward positively then I would be absolutely delighted to be wrong. It would please me no end. Fingers crossed that all the indications to the contrary are wrong.

Gonna have to get on with the work in front of my I'm afraid.

Tara all

As I said althought its very tough, don't lose heart - 1 in 3 people that voted, voted for Corbyn and Labour. That is despite a monumental media onslaught and character assassination.

Hopefully some of the strongest manifesto ideas will carry across.

Have a good week at work

 

[happypig]

I think the Tories under Boris and with a huge majority if they really finally do somthing for the North of Britan could keep Labour out of power for the next ten years

They won't though, will they ? If Brexit leads to a constriction of the economy the first thing Westminster and the City will do is to make sure Westminster and the City don't suffer; they'll look after their own.

 

[GOM]

Not angry. Just very disappointed at the state of this country with so many being so gullible.

Yes many people 'were gullible', or to put it another way, didn't vote the same way as you. I guess who is gullible would depend on who you voted for.
Was it those that voted Conservative, or those that voted Corbyn.

 

[Jim D]

I can't let that comment pass - you are Emily Thornberry and I claim my £5.00.

If you check post #8 you'll find that I already claimed that prize. Still haven't received it though.....

 

[Rogero]

I worked for a national company and always lived in the south. The pay for my job was a national rate and I was shocked as a young man to see how well off the Northern lads were. We southerners had huge mortgages and drove around in old bangers and no holidays for many years so life was a struggle . Our Northern colleagues were quite well off in comparison ,so yes there is a north south divide but not as people think.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

I worked for a national company and always lived in the south. The pay for my job was a national rate and I was shocked as a young man to see how well off the Northern lads were. We southerners had huge mortgages and drove around in old bangers and no holidays for many years so life was a struggle . Our Northern colleagues were quite well off in comparison ,so yes there is a north south divide but not as people think.

Totally agree. Added to which the investment in East Sussex and southern Kent is poor with some of the coastal areas being the most deprived in the UK

 

[Driver8]

I worked for a national company and always lived in the south. The pay for my job was a national rate and I was shocked as a young man to see how well off the Northern lads were. We southerners had huge mortgages and drove around in old bangers and no holidays for many years so life was a struggle . Our Northern colleagues were quite well off in comparison ,so yes there is a north south divide but not as people think.

Don’t tell everyone! We are trying to keep the fact that we have a much higher standard of living in the North a secret otherwise every Tom, Dick and Harry will want to live here!

 

[Hamilton]

The North/South divide.

What is the 'divide'? There's a divide between the 'haves' and the 'have nots' and it just so happens that many of the 'haves' live down south. Poverty in London, in south coast towns etc. is just as bad as it is up North.

First define the divide that's happening. I'm not sure the geographical definition helps.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Yes many people 'were gullible', or to put it another way, didn't vote the same way as you. I guess who is gullible would depend on who you voted for.
Was it those that voted Conservative, or those that voted Corbyn.

In my opinion, much of the leave vote is based on a misplaced belief that voting for Brexit is voting for a reduction in immigration.
I strongly suspect that there will be much less impact on immigration following Brexit, than may pro-leavers are expecting.

Other than that I'm not really sure what Tory voters have voted for.
There wasn't much in the manifesto, so I assume it was predominantlyt an anti-corbyn vote.

Hopefully next time, the electorate will be able to vote on the performance of the incumbent government.
They really should be held to account more than they are.

 

[amexer]

Reduce property prices in south by half

 

[dingodan]

Seriously?

Of course seriously.

 

[Wrong-Direction]

What North / South divide ?

Do you mean the one the tabloids and champagne socialist media whores would have us believe in the South and those in North exists ?

We have the same issues, under funding in schools, NHS and general infrastructure, we have seaside towns in the north and south that are suffering, we have people being displaced by second home rich folk out pricing the locals in various parts of the land. We are all suffering the same effects of a lack of investment in inner city areas and suburbs.

They want us to believe one or the other is better off, because it fuels and serves the political aims at any given time, exactly the same as the Scotland wanting independence.

Divide and rule, and we are the Prawns (yes I mean prawns) in this game.

just my opinion.

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[The Clamp]

I worked for a national company and always lived in the south. The pay for my job was a national rate and I was shocked as a young man to see how well off the Northern lads were. We southerners had huge mortgages and drove around in old bangers and no holidays for many years so life was a struggle . Our Northern colleagues were quite well off in comparison ,so yes there is a north south divide but not as people think.

This. Places like Bolton. People on 17-20k own 3 bedroom houses, gardens, garages, running two cars, two holidays a year, good nights out, nice clothes, living in nice areas.

Money goes a lot further up North.

 

[oneillco]

Northern voters swung the Leave vote to punish Cameron's Tories and the southern elite and demonstrate they won't toe the line. Now northern voters have punished the Labour party for being too southern elitist and for daring to suggest we might want to have another think about Brexit. Right, so now the north has flexed its muscles and smashed things-up what happens next? Will the Tories try and keep their new voters by pouring investment into the north to counteract economic consequences of dropping out of the single market?

 

[vegster]

What North / South divide ?

Do you mean the one the tabloids and champagne socialist media whores would have us believe in the South and those in North exists ?

We have the same issues, under funding in schools, NHS and general infrastructure, we have seaside towns in the north and south that are suffering, we have people being displaced by second home rich folk out pricing the locals in various parts of the land. We are all suffering the same effects of a lack of investment in inner city areas and suburbs.

They want us to believe one or the other is better off, because it fuels and serves the political aims at any given time, exactly the same as the Scotland wanting independence.

Divide and rule, and we are the Prawns (yes I mean prawns) in this game.

just my opinion.

I agree entirely, deprivation everywhere in different forms. I heard an interview with a Head Teacher from Thanet and he said the local area is dying, no jobs, food bank use increasing, the school having to provide meals for pupils out of term time, poor health care as they struggle to get GP's in the area and they have an increasing drugs problem. This is repeated in the sink estates across the country, even quite local to us. Plenty of money about, but, it does not stay in the local economy.