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Sloe Joe

New member
Oct 7, 2010
639
Gus is correct on all couts - multi national squad - he,s not exactly Brit , so no problemo - no.
Live and be happy with his global amazing team !
 






slinky

The Only Way Is Brighton
Jan 19, 2011
1,222
BN2
What Gus Said "Gus Poyet insists Luis Suarez is ‘100% not a racist’ – and says England needs to adapt to foreign players coming into the country.
The Liverpool striker has been charged by the FA with abuse that “included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra”, but the Brighton boss doesn’t believe he should have a case to answer.
And in an explosive interview with the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast, he backed his fellow Uruguayan to the hilt.
Poyet said: “I know Luis very well and I will go to court if someone wants to prove he’s not racist. We live in Uruguay with plenty of people who have different colour skin. We all live together and play football together. I’ve been room-mates with people of different colour and we have no problems at all.
“I can assure you and everyone Luis is not a racist. We use different words and it is a different kind of situation. What hurts me the most is that you accuse someone. Luis Suarez has been accused of being a racist.
“You cannot accuse people without a proper investigation, especially when it’s a foreigner who is coming from a different place where we treat people of colour in a different way. So it was very easy to accuse someone.
“You need to go first very deep into it to see if there is maybe a case. For me there is nothing at all and we’re making things look bigger than they are and that hurts.”
And Poyet claims the authorities in England have to understand the way the rest of the world views terms that could be construed as racist, although he concedes players coming into the UK also need to adapt to the different culture.
He added: “I played with a player, and nobody knew him as Fernando Cáceres. Everyone knows him worldwide as Negro Caceres – even in the newspapers and on television they all him that. Is that racist? In England it is but in the rest of the world, in South America or Spain, it’s not. Because I read that 100 times in newspapers and I listen to TV programmes calling Fernando, a good friend of mine, Negro Caceres.
“I understand people in this country and I changed my way of behaving, but Luis has been in this country just a few months.
“I played in Spain for seven years and they called me everything. It doesn’t make it right, but what do you want? Tell me what you want.
“Me, I’m not racist. I’ve lived with people of different colours in different countries and I adapted to every single situation. Suarez needs to adapt to England, and England needs to adapt to the players that come here.
“England should adapt to the foreigners that come here and England needs to understand how the rest of the world lives. If we have that understanding, easy.
“If you try to go to a point that doesn’t exist in the rest of the world, it’s going to be complicated. You think the rest of the world is wrong and you are right. Maybe it looks like you want the whole world to drive on the right hand side. Do you want that? So you need to adapt as well.
“Luis Suarez is 100% not a racist. We can accuse people and make Suarez look like a racist, but he’s not. He lived in a country where we live with people and work with people of other colour. And we trust them to the end.
“You are not racist when you go against one, but [you are] if you go against the whole world of different colour and nationalities. That is being racist, not saying one word in one moment.
“If that’s what you want, fair enough. I take it and accept it. I had to behave in a different way because I’ve been in England for 13 years. So I know what you are like and I adapt to that.
“Give Suarez another six months and I think he’ll be how you want him to be. “" 
 




brighton bluenose

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2006
1,396
Nicollet & 66th
What Gus Said "Gus Poyet insists Luis Suarez is ‘100% not a racist’ – and says England needs to adapt to foreign players coming into the country.
The Liverpool striker has been charged by the FA with abuse that “included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra”, but the Brighton boss doesn’t believe he should have a case to answer.
And in an explosive interview with the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast, he backed his fellow Uruguayan to the hilt.
Poyet said: “I know Luis very well and I will go to court if someone wants to prove he’s not racist. We live in Uruguay with plenty of people who have different colour skin. We all live together and play football together. I’ve been room-mates with people of different colour and we have no problems at all.
“I can assure you and everyone Luis is not a racist. We use different words and it is a different kind of situation. What hurts me the most is that you accuse someone. Luis Suarez has been accused of being a racist.
“You cannot accuse people without a proper investigation, especially when it’s a foreigner who is coming from a different place where we treat people of colour in a different way. So it was very easy to accuse someone.
“You need to go first very deep into it to see if there is maybe a case. For me there is nothing at all and we’re making things look bigger than they are and that hurts.”
And Poyet claims the authorities in England have to understand the way the rest of the world views terms that could be construed as racist, although he concedes players coming into the UK also need to adapt to the different culture.
He added: “I played with a player, and nobody knew him as Fernando Cáceres. Everyone knows him worldwide as Negro Caceres – even in the newspapers and on television they all him that. Is that racist? In England it is but in the rest of the world, in South America or Spain, it’s not. Because I read that 100 times in newspapers and I listen to TV programmes calling Fernando, a good friend of mine, Negro Caceres.
“I understand people in this country and I changed my way of behaving, but Luis has been in this country just a few months.
“I played in Spain for seven years and they called me everything. It doesn’t make it right, but what do you want? Tell me what you want.
“Me, I’m not racist. I’ve lived with people of different colours in different countries and I adapted to every single situation. Suarez needs to adapt to England, and England needs to adapt to the players that come here.
“England should adapt to the foreigners that come here and England needs to understand how the rest of the world lives. If we have that understanding, easy.
“If you try to go to a point that doesn’t exist in the rest of the world, it’s going to be complicated. You think the rest of the world is wrong and you are right. Maybe it looks like you want the whole world to drive on the right hand side. Do you want that? So you need to adapt as well.
“Luis Suarez is 100% not a racist. We can accuse people and make Suarez look like a racist, but he’s not. He lived in a country where we live with people and work with people of other colour. And we trust them to the end.
“You are not racist when you go against one, but [you are] if you go against the whole world of different colour and nationalities. That is being racist, not saying one word in one moment.
“If that’s what you want, fair enough. I take it and accept it. I had to behave in a different way because I’ve been in England for 13 years. So I know what you are like and I adapt to that.
“Give Suarez another six months and I think he’ll be how you want him to be. “" 


In other words 'he's been racist but doesn't understand the new culture he's living in where it's frowned upon' - so that's OK then!!

The fact is Suarez in using the word 'negrita' was being knowingly racist to wind Evra up - does anyone really think that he was using to say 'my cuddly little black friend' or whatever else it's meant to mean down South America way FFS???!!!

GUS - YOU SHOULD HAVE ENGAGED BRAIN AND STAYED WELL OUT OF IT FFS!
 




BUTTERBALL

East Stand Brighton Boyz
Jul 31, 2003
10,283
location location
El "Negro" Cáceres sigue en estado crítico tras ser baleado
El ex futbolista fue baleado por un grupo de delincuentes que intentó robarle el auto en la localidad bonaerense de Ciudadela. Su estado es crítico. Hay dos jóvenes de 16 años detenidos por el hecho.

Poor bugger was shot! Quite openly reported in the Uruguyan Media, so I can see the point Gus was trying to make.
 


Seasider78

Well-known member
Nov 14, 2004
6,011
Well Gus has survived today's papers as luckily he is not high profile enough to make headlines. Time for Gus to learn from this and all of us to move on this will be forgotten by Monday
 


wehatepalace

Limbs
NSC Patron
Apr 27, 2004
7,332
Pease Pottage
I seriously think some of the twats on here won't be happy until they've hounded Gus out of the club, we're relegated with some northern twunt as manager and the team playing hoofball on some mud bath of a pitch !
He's our manager, show the man a bit of loyalty
 




Hotchilidog

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2009
9,123
The club should just tell Gus to think before he speaks in future, but otherwise just concentrate on Brighton & Hove Albion and not comment on other things. Other than that, just let him get on with the job.

I think Gus's comments were extremely ill-judged, and they made him look like an idiot, and in indeed at least for yesterday brought some bad publicity to the club. However anyone who genuinely thinks Gus is a racist is an idiot. He is clearly not, and the calls for his head etc are ridiculous.

We have a big game today an he should refrain from further comment, he has said his bit now, he should let the FA resolve the dispute between the two players.
 


APACHE

LONGTIME DIEHARD
Feb 18, 2011
758
THE PROMISED LAND-SUSSEX
I think Gus is bascally saying, you go to a country that's not yours, you adapt to that country's ways.It maynot be what you think is correct but that is their way. T he problum starts when you want the country to change to your way.
 








W.C.

New member
Oct 31, 2011
4,927
In other words 'he's been racist but doesn't understand the new culture he's living in where it's frowned upon' - so that's OK then!!

The fact is Suarez in using the word 'negrita' was being knowingly racist to wind Evra up - does anyone really think that he was using to say 'my cuddly little black friend' or whatever else it's meant to mean down South America way FFS???!!!

GUS - YOU SHOULD HAVE ENGAGED BRAIN AND STAYED WELL OUT OF IT FFS!

that's not what he said. Although I agree he should have stayed out of it.
 


chimneys

Well-known member
Jun 11, 2007
3,609
Bloom needs to tell gus to wind his neck in and warn him that if he is going to say things that could harm the reputation of the club he will be fined, just like any player would. His comments were stupid, badly mistimed and have nothing to do with our club. He's our football manager, not the head of care in the community for idiotic uraguayan players. Great preparation for a big game tomorrow and how do the likes of Liam bridcutt and lua lua feel about all this? Stupid, irrelevant bullshit that needs to stop.

You have summed up my thoughts on this subject very well!

Are Liverpool paying Gus to be Suarez' mentor?
 






AMEXican Wave

AMEX Ruffian
Sep 21, 2010
1,226
What Gus Said "Gus Poyet insists Luis Suarez is ‘100% not a racist’ – and says England needs to adapt to foreign players coming into the country.
The Liverpool striker has been charged by the FA with abuse that “included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra”, but the Brighton boss doesn’t believe he should have a case to answer.
And in an explosive interview with the Alan Brazil Sports Breakfast, he backed his fellow Uruguayan to the hilt.
Poyet said: “I know Luis very well and I will go to court if someone wants to prove he’s not racist. We live in Uruguay with plenty of people who have different colour skin. We all live together and play football together. I’ve been room-mates with people of different colour and we have no problems at all.
“I can assure you and everyone Luis is not a racist. We use different words and it is a different kind of situation. What hurts me the most is that you accuse someone. Luis Suarez has been accused of being a racist.
“You cannot accuse people without a proper investigation, especially when it’s a foreigner who is coming from a different place where we treat people of colour in a different way. So it was very easy to accuse someone.
“You need to go first very deep into it to see if there is maybe a case. For me there is nothing at all and we’re making things look bigger than they are and that hurts.”
And Poyet claims the authorities in England have to understand the way the rest of the world views terms that could be construed as racist, although he concedes players coming into the UK also need to adapt to the different culture.
He added: “I played with a player, and nobody knew him as Fernando Cáceres. Everyone knows him worldwide as Negro Caceres – even in the newspapers and on television they all him that. Is that racist? In England it is but in the rest of the world, in South America or Spain, it’s not. Because I read that 100 times in newspapers and I listen to TV programmes calling Fernando, a good friend of mine, Negro Caceres.
“I understand people in this country and I changed my way of behaving, but Luis has been in this country just a few months.
“I played in Spain for seven years and they called me everything. It doesn’t make it right, but what do you want? Tell me what you want.
“Me, I’m not racist. I’ve lived with people of different colours in different countries and I adapted to every single situation. Suarez needs to adapt to England, and England needs to adapt to the players that come here.
“England should adapt to the foreigners that come here and England needs to understand how the rest of the world lives. If we have that understanding, easy.
“If you try to go to a point that doesn’t exist in the rest of the world, it’s going to be complicated. You think the rest of the world is wrong and you are right. Maybe it looks like you want the whole world to drive on the right hand side. Do you want that? So you need to adapt as well.
“Luis Suarez is 100% not a racist. We can accuse people and make Suarez look like a racist, but he’s not. He lived in a country where we live with people and work with people of other colour. And we trust them to the end.
“You are not racist when you go against one, but [you are] if you go against the whole world of different colour and nationalities. That is being racist, not saying one word in one moment.
“If that’s what you want, fair enough. I take it and accept it. I had to behave in a different way because I’ve been in England for 13 years. So I know what you are like and I adapt to that.
“Give Suarez another six months and I think he’ll be how you want him to be. “" 

Blimey, if that is all Gus has said - which is quite a clear explanation of a different cultural view, then he has no case to answer.

Hope I don't see smarmy Mark Bright - with his own anti-brighton agenda - laying into him tonight on the TV.
 




GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
Gus didn't say anything wrong, I don't get these threads?

In full and total utter agreement,people creating shit for the sake of it,gossipers,small talk merchants,and most of all-bullshitters(F.A.O-MODERATORS)sorry i have been swearing too much lately in my posts,most unlike me and now i will calm things down.

Gus-an honourable man.
 




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