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West Ham Olympic stadium battle.



TS90

New member
Jan 26, 2011
818
I still think Spurs are using their Olympic Stadium bid as leverage against Haringey council to a certain extent. I mean, anyone who's been to Tottenham knows there's f*** all there, apart from the club. I mean the people who go to the games are basically the ones keeping the area running, yet the council don't want to put their hands in their pockets to preserve and improve that. It'd essentially kick start the regeneration of an area which is in desperate need of it.
 




APACHE

LONGTIME DIEHARD
Feb 18, 2011
758
THE PROMISED LAND-SUSSEX
Even with a new roof and the top tier being re modeled we know what it will be like, a bloody long way from most of the play. In the long run the whole stadium will need alot of money to run and WH have never been one of the richest.
 


Simontheseagull

Eye from the sky
Jul 11, 2010
496
The Amex
Spurs should stay in North London and buy Wembley for the £500m from the FA who can't really afford to maintain Wembley without holding non football events. Non football events normally held at Wembley can then be held at the Olympic Stadium to support the Olympic Stadium financially while maintaining a running track for athletics; e.g Horse of the year show, monster truck racing, American football, etc. England football games can then be held around the country as happened before new Wembley was built, to enable fans in all parts of England to watch the national team at reasonable prices without being ripped off for £2.50 for half a litre of water, £4.30 for a pint of tasteless lager and £5.50 for a hot dog. The FA Cup final could still be played at Wembley by the FA leasing the stadium from Spurs.

Spurs should be happy to get a larger stadium in north London. The FA should be happy because they would be more financially secure. Orient would be happy because neither Spurs nor West Ham would move onto their patch. West Ham fans would be happy because they can keep their existing ground that they can fill every week without having to watch football from beyond an athletics track.

It would just be Gold, Sullivan and Brady who would lose out because they only took over West Ham thinking they could make money for themselves by moving West Ham to the Olympic Stadium - what a shame.
 




Falkor

Banned
Jun 3, 2011
5,673
Tottenham have had their bid for a judicial review of the Olympic Stadium decision rejected, the BBC has learned.

Spurs and Leyton Orient were contesting the decision, taken by the Olympic Park Legacy Company in February, to choose West Ham and Newham Council.

But Judge Mr Justice Davis told them there are no grounds for a review.

"We are pleased with the ruling and continue to make good progress with the Preferred Bidder to agree final terms," the Olympic Park Legacy Company said.

BBC Sport - Spurs fail with bid to review Olympic Stadium decision


Not sure about orients though
 





This includes Orient's challenge - they were one and the same. I'm glad that this is the case - Spurs were not genuinely upset with the process but merely the result. West Ham are IMHO much better candidates just on the basis of their proximity to Stratford. I find it difficult to have much sympathy for Orient, due to the slimy nature of Hearn and the fact that they weren't interested in the process until about a week before the decision. Hearn was playing a game hoping to get something for Orient (either a new stadium or cash) and failed; tough.
 




Falkor

Banned
Jun 3, 2011
5,673
No-one is to blame.

The Premier League Board released a statement regarding a decision on the Olympic Stadium and Leyton Orient

At the request of Tottenham Hotspur and West Ham United the Premier League Board considered whether a prospective move to the Olympic Stadium, should either club be granted use of the site by the Olympic Park Legacy Company (OPLC), would be compliant with Premier League Rules.

In reaching its decision the Board took into account the relevant factors set out in Rule I.6.

The Board came to the decision that on balance it would be unreasonable to prevent either Tottenham Hotspur or West Ham United from moving to the Olympic Site as long as they satisfied all of the relevant criteria stipulated by appropriate Olympic and statutory authorities.

Due consideration
With particular reference to Leyton Orient, full consideration was given to a letter written by its Chairman, Barry Hearn, to the Premier League prior to the Board meeting at which the decision was taken. In the letter Mr. Hearn accepted that either Tottenham Hotspur or West Ham United would inevitably move into the Olympic Stadium while outlining his preference for Tottenham Hotspur. Mr. Hearn enclosed a copy of a separate letter written to the Tottenham Hotspur Chairman in which he wished him 'all success for the prospective move.'

After the Board had met and reached its decision the Premier League General Secretary wrote to Mr. Hearn informing him of its decision, the reasoning behind it and thanking him for his correspondence.

It is regrettable that Mr. Hearn is now claiming that Leyton Orient had no input into the Board's decision making process when their views, as expressed in writing at the time by Mr. Hearn, were given due consideration. Clearly the position currently being articulated by Mr. Hearn in the media is at odds with his original submission.

The League has no view on the comparative merits of Tottenham Hotspur or West Ham United's bids. It was ultimately the responsibility of the OPLC to decide how the site would be used following the 2012 Olympic Games.

With all this in mind there is absolutely no question of the Board's decision being reviewed.



Well that should hopefully shut Hearn up.
 




DT Withdean

New member
Mar 5, 2011
1,089
I still think Spurs are using their Olympic Stadium bid as leverage against Haringey council to a certain extent. I mean, anyone who's been to Tottenham knows there's f*** all there, apart from the club. I mean the people who go to the games are basically the ones keeping the area running, yet the council don't want to put their hands in their pockets to preserve and improve that. It'd essentially kick start the regeneration of an area which is in desperate need of it.

Perhaps Haringey haven't got the money (unless you wrongly assume Governments and Councils have bottomless pits of money to waste on football related matters),
Tottenham (and their friends CPFC who tried to get in on the act) should meet the cost of their projects just as Arsenal, Man Utd and the Albion have, in essence).

If that means Tottenham & Palace have less money for players for a number of years, hard luck. No ones forcing them to increase capacity and revenues.
 


TS90

New member
Jan 26, 2011
818
It's not just a football related matter, like I say, the area is massively deprived and pretty much runs on the money that people spend when going to watch the games. Surely any council would be wise to spend now (and give the relevant planning permissions) to reap the long term benefits to their community. Arsenal got help from their borough, Haringey just aren't doing the same for Spurs. Brighton koped a massive stroke of luck to get the ground and you know it. Morally, it's far worse than asking for council assistance.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,263
Perhaps Haringey haven't got the money (unless you wrongly assume Governments and Councils have bottomless pits of money to waste on football related matters),
Tottenham (and their friends CPFC who tried to get in on the act) should meet the cost of their projects just as Arsenal, Man Utd and the Albion have, in essence).

If that means Tottenham & Palace have less money for players for a number of years, hard luck. No ones forcing them to increase capacity and revenues.

If the new Spurs stadium gets built where originally planned Haringey Council will benefit greatly through increased business rates income. London Transport will also benefit from more people travelling by tube. There's a deal to be cut that makes sense to all 3 parties, and it's staggering it hasn't happened yet.
 






DT Withdean

New member
Mar 5, 2011
1,089
If the new Spurs stadium gets built where originally planned Haringey Council will benefit greatly through increased business rates income. London Transport will also benefit from more people travelling by tube. There's a deal to be cut that makes sense to all 3 parties, and it's staggering it hasn't happened yet.

But the capital outlay to Haringey BC now, which has no money anyway, would take decades to get back in incremental business rates.

Councils are not businesses taking investment gambles with taxpayers monies (most of whom, unlike us, don't like football), to get an alleged greater long-term return (here business rates).

Otherwise councils would rubber stamp 100% of development schemes simply in the hope of greater business rates, which is actually a side issue.

In addition Levy wanted everything his own way and wanted to demolish some historic buildings nearby.

Needs to be some compromising by Levy too, and to fully fund it themselves, just like Man U, Arsenal, Albion. If it means lower quality footballers acquired for a few seasons, so be it. Can't have cake and eat it.

Joe Lewis, the majority owner is still a multi-billionaire. Can't he donate some to the cause?
 


Falkor

Banned
Jun 3, 2011
5,673
a member of the Olympic park team has been suspended, she was also employed by West Ham, according to the Olympic park comity and West Ham she had nothing to do with the bidding process, but this will only inflame Tottenham case no doubt.
 






Falkor

Banned
Jun 3, 2011
5,673
Spurs have now gone to the government to try and get funding to develop white hart lane, that would make more sense.

I know alot of hammers that really dont want to move but i know a few that do, i think the pros, are the transport links, as we will find out this season getting to West Ham is a joke, most the time the tube is down on a weekend, so ya have to go by bus or car.

Also if they do get the retractable seating i dont think its going to be that bad as people think it will be, there getting a new roof that i think they will make sure that traps the sound.
 


Lord Bamber

Legendary Chairman
Feb 23, 2009
4,366
Heaven
They say, you get what you wish for.
If I was a W Ham fan, I'd think I was cursed.

Maybe even more so if the newspaper stories over payments are true!
 


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