[News] Well done boris!!!

[jackanada]

I would never be so naive as to wholeheartedly endorse a politician but ,frankly I am broadly behind our leader at this present time. There is nothing gained by ranting dissent or sniping when you are fighting a war ( which we are against this virus ) I do not think anyone else could have done better given the fact that this is uncharted territory for the whole world.
At least he knows how to communicate which is more than a lot of them can do effectively.

We're up against a virus. It's not going to retreat because we're presenting a united front or be encouraged should we disagree with the generals.

Clearly the full effectiveness of our approach will only be known years from now, but to say no-one could have done better is, to be kind, an extremely bold statement.

 

[vegster]

I would never be so naive as to wholeheartedly endorse a politician but ,frankly I am broadly behind our leader at this present time. There is nothing gained by ranting dissent or sniping when you are fighting a war ( which we are against this virus ) I do not think anyone else could have done better given the fact that this is uncharted territory for the whole world.
At least he knows how to communicate which is more than a lot of them can do effectively.

You are joking ? aren't you ?

In that case why does Johnson look and sound like a combination of The Swedish Chef from the Muppets and Young Mr Grace from "Are you Being Served " ….. " Carry on everybody, you're all doing very well ! "

 

[WATFORD zero]

I have two theories:

a) It's a second account
b) It's a 12 year old's failed attempt at making a bot. Cos something real cant actually be that obnoxious and entirely devoid of any legitimate emotion, surely?

I always assumed that [MENTION=35289]Baker lite[/MENTION] is actually [MENTION=11191]Pretty pink fairy[/MENTION] 'armed' with one of these

 

[A1X]

There is nothing gained by ranting dissent or sniping when you are fighting a war

Actually, there is. Many of the most important decisions taken during the two world wars were born out of exactly this. Not least by Churchill himself, in either war, whether it be organising shipping in convoys or in opposing appeasement and the demands for a settled peace in 1940.

 

[Palacefinder General]

Actually, there is. Many of the most important decisions taken during the two world wars were born out of exactly this. Not least by Churchill himself, in either war, whether it be organising shipping in convoys or in opposing appeasement and the demands for a settled peace in 1940.

When he wasn't busy making derogatory remarks about Native Americans, Aborigines, Jews, Indians and Muslims of course. Lovely chap.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

I always assumed that [MENTION=35289]Baker lite[/MENTION] is actually [MENTION=11191]Pretty pink fairy[/MENTION] 'armed' with one of these

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You assume to much , I haven't quite worked out if it's you or H who has the unhealthy obsession with me , I'll let it stew for a little while yet
Regards
DF

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

History is being made. The people of the future will look back on you with detest.

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Take a look in the mirror
Regards
DF

 

[Baker lite]

Do you ever sometimes feel like punching baker lite hard in the face?

Said it before and I’ll say it again, I can PM you my seat number at the Amex so we can introduce ourselves?
My door is always open.


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[Baker lite]

Max Hastings (most definitely not a leftie of any description) on Boris Johnson:

"There is room for debate about whether he is a scoundrel or mere rogue, but not much about his moral bankruptcy, rooted in a contempt for truth.

"A Johnson premiership will almost certainly reveal a contempt for rules, precedent, order and stability

"He would not recognise the truth, whether about his private or political life, if confronted by it in an identity parade.

"I have known Johnson since the 1980s, when I edited the Daily Telegraph and he was our flamboyant Brussels correspondent.

"I have argued for a decade that, while he is a brilliant entertainer who made a popular maitre d’ for London as its mayor, he is unfit for national office, because it seems he cares for no interest save his own fame and gratification. Tory MPs have launched this country upon an experiment in celebrity government, matching that taking place in Ukraine and the US, and it is unlikely to be derailed by the latest headlines.

"The Washington columnist George Will observes that Donald Trump does what his political base wants “by breaking all the china”. We can’t predict what a Johnson government will do, because its prospective leader has not got around to thinking about this. But his premiership will almost certainly reveal a contempt for rules, precedent, order and stability.

"A few admirers assert that, in office, Johnson will reveal an accession of wisdom and responsibility that have hitherto eluded him, not least as foreign secretary. This seems unlikely."

We all know what a caring, sharing waste of breath you are.

Dreadful human.


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[Pretty pink fairy]

We all know what a caring, sharing waste of breath you are.

Dreadful human.


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Bitter to the core, I could throw a few more into the mix but they know who they are
Regards
DF

 

[nicko31]

Said it before and I’ll say it again, I can PM you my seat number at the Amex so we can introduce ourselves?
My door is always open.


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TP, come on. You don't make it out of Brum that much do you?

 

[Baker lite]

TP, come on. You don't make it out of Brum that much do you?

For the first time ever You and I have something in common, neither of us have a clue what You are talking about.


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[A1X]

When he wasn't busy making derogatory remarks about Native Americans, Aborigines, Jews, Indians and Muslims of course. Lovely chap.

Oh gosh yes, Churchill was not the hero he's mythologised into being in my opinion.

 

[BLOCK F]

Ernest called me a 'red tory' several years ago, which is why I put him on ignore. The troll.

Actually I feel that there are many posters on here of blue and red (and other) persuasion who have been extremely nonpartizan and reasonable. It is the banging on about tribalism and bias that is annoying me. Nobody should counter an argument with 'you are only saying that because', because the counter is 'you are only saying that because', and that is not a discussion. Innit.

Obviously some people just spout partizan shite or wind-up trollery and nothing else, but there is no point engaging with them. Except for low comedy purposes.

I think you are being very generous in your assessment, as I see tribalism and bias in bucket loads.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I think you are being very generous in your assessment, as I see tribalism and bias in bucket loads.

As you will have noticed, I am a kindly and generous young man.

But I do have most of the worst offenders on ignore, which probably makes NSC a much nicer place from my perspective.

 

[Wellesley]

We all know what a caring, sharing waste of breath you are.

Dreadful human.


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That is disgusting. The kinder, gentler politics of the left on display once again. Thanks to scumbags like this we get an MP like Russell-Moyle. Shameful.

 

[Justice]

I was always taught you fall in love , get married and then think about having children . Seems times have changed ....

Deluded, I’m the product of a married man shagging a 19 yr old work colleague in 1968. To this day I’ve never set eyes on either parent, I’m grateful to my birth mother for not opting for an abortion must of been tough for her pregnant & single back in the 60’s.

 

[BLOCK F]

As you will have noticed, I am a kindly and generous young man.

But I do have most of the worst offenders on ignore, which probably makes NSC a much nicer place from my perspective.

Hi Harry, at 61 you are indeed a young man..........relative to me, anyway.
I have no-one on ignore, although I have to say that on seeing some names, one knows in advance what is likely to be the tone of their post.
Hope things are as well as they can be at Chez Tackle. Life in Prison Block F goes on, with no sign of parole on the horizon. Gotta keep sewing them mail bags, I suppose.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Hi Harry, at 61 you are indeed a young man..........relative to me, anyway.
I have no-one on ignore, although I have to say that on seeing some names, one knows in advance what is likely to be the tone of their post.
Hope things are as well as they can be at Chez Tackle. Life in Prison Block F goes on, with no sign of parole on the horizon. Gotta keep sewing them mail bags, I suppose.

Cheers, mate. Generally OK here, although we do have the ability to create difficulties for ourselves, but that's neither here nor their. I'll crack on with sewing my mailbags....

 

[Surf's Up]

John Crace nails it again:

Boris Johnson has every right to sound knackered. It’s little more than a couple of weeks since he came out of intensive care and his partner has just given birth to a baby boy. But sounding breathless before he had even gasped out his opening sentence at his first Downing Street press conference since falling ill with the coronavirus probably wasn’t the commanding, reassuring presence he had hoped to convey.

The Boss may be back, but the man who longed to be the new Churchill isn’t even the old Boris. The upbeat ebullience and jingoism no longer comes naturally. He can still come out with the same words, but he can no longer even bring himself to believe them. For the first time in his life, there are signs of self-doubt. When he looks in the mirror, he now sees his reflection beginning to fragment. His persona that has been carefully constructed over 55 years to protect himself from the pain of being himself is falling apart. Yet still he can’t quite access the humility that might go some way to healing himself.

Not that Boris didn’t give it his best shot at papering over the cracks, but it cost him dear. By the end of the press conference he was just two pinprick, bloodshot eyes peeping out of an ashen-white face. If he really feels the need to get back to work so soon, then he can’t have much faith in the rest of his cabinet. There again, that’s one area where you can’t really fault his judgment.


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“I’m not going to minimise the lack of personal protective equipment or the failure to expedite testing,” he said. Before proceeding to do just that. The lack of PPE and adequate testing – today was the day we were supposed to have reached 100,000 daily tests – have been two of the leading factors in the UK’s mortality rate, but according to Boris the government hadn’t put a foot wrong. The lack of an apology becomes more insulting by the day to the families of the nearly 27,000 people who have died. It appears that the only people in the entire country not to have heard of the 2016 Exercise Cygnus, that highlighted the risks of a pandemic, are the entire government frontbench.

Rejoice, rejoice. Sunlight was visible. We had avoided the worst-case scenario of 500,000 dead by burrowing under the alpine mountain. Boris appeared to have both forgotten that we were already well past the 20,000 “best-case result” of his chief scientific adviser, Patrick Vallance, and that – even allowing for statistical variations – the UK had a fatality rate significantly higher than that of Germany or South Korea and might even have the worst record of any country in Europe.

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The line that the government did the right things at the right time becomes ever more untenable. What can’t be admitted is that Boris effectively took a 10-day holiday in March, at a time when he could have done more to protect the country. Seldom has so much been owed by so few to so many.

Boris then breezed on to the R rate – AKA the reproduction rate. Here satire nearly died. For as scientists struggle to pin down the UK’s R rate to between 0.6 and 0.9, no one has the first idea of Boris’s own reproduction rate. We know its current level is at least six – though even Boris doesn’t appear to know if it’s more – and with every likelihood of adding to the score in the years ahead. If Boris were a virus he would be deadly.

On and on he bumbled. We would have to wait until some time next week for the government to make it clear it still had no real plan for ending lockdown. Things were definitely getting better but no one had a clue how to ease things while ensuring R remained lower than one. Even Vallance and England’s chief medical officer, Chris Whitty, couldn’t help Boris out with that one. The only certainty was more uncertainty.

The questions only revealed how little everyone really knew, as Boris had no clear answers to anything. He couldn’t say anything on tourism to Cornwall – “there will be more information later” – and his suggestion that people with mental health issues should call NHS helplines rang hollow as successive Tory governments have cut mental health provision to a bare minimum. Even if you’re really desperate, you’re lucky to get an appointment inside six months these days. An embarrassed Whitty eventually had to intervene and point people in the direction of mental health charities if they needed urgent help.

Otherwise, there was just more of the same. The scientists urging caution while Boris talked big about the economy bouncing back, avoiding the second peak and enforcing the wearing of face masks which only a month ago he had said were a waste of time. But deep down, Boris knows he’s met his match. Up till now, he’s never found a situation in his life which he couldn’t bluster his way out of. Now he’s come up against a power greater than himself; coronavirus is so far immune to almost everything. In a straight contest between coronavirus and bullshit, the coronavirus wins every time.