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birthofanorange

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The left on full form here.

So someone does not agree with you about school meals, somehow that equates to ‘filth’, ‘****’, ‘racist’ and another ‘****’.

Intolerance lives strongly in compassion it seems.

If you can't see further than 'school meals', you're clearly not as bright as you think you are.
The guy is a racist tool.
 




nicko31

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Taking into consideration the obscene amount of money he 'earns ' maybe he could make a sizeable donation to help out 'starving kids ' , just a thought
Regards
DF

He's done his bit already trying to bring this cruel government into line
 


daveinplzen

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The left on full form here.

So someone does not agree with you about school meals, somehow that equates to ‘filth’, ‘****’, ‘racist’ and another ‘****’.

Intolerance lives strongly in compassion it seems.

Especially when right wingers get triggered by somebody stepping up, and doing what the government (they voted for) should be doing.
 


rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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My word. This thread is an utter cesspit of racist scumbags isn't it. Those trying to argue with them should just step back and let them toss each other off over Farage and Yaxley-Lennon videos. Amazing stuff. Like watching rats who've been injected with ketamine stumbling about trying to bite something.

:lolol::lolol::lolol: nice image (nice being the wrong word)
 


rogersix

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Well, let’s be clear on some of these points.

There is no such thing as free school meals.........they are not free it is paid for by taxpayers.
Poor kids with parents on benefits before Covid lockdown are receiving more in benefits now than before Covid so nothing has changed for them, providing school meals throughout holidays never happened before.
Poor kids with parents on furlough is a different matter, and this constituency have a better claim, however there is no EVIDENCE that these are the kids who are malnourished.

So, where is the fire?

Saint Marcus and his zealots are tilting at windmills, your points about Jamie Oliver are a case in point, his campaign was in response to rising obesity, not starvation.

Conflating the 2 issues is absurd, I am all for protecting the poor but the poor in this country are not starving, statistically they are fatter than the rich. FACT.

posh facker, public school kids' meals are subsidised by the tax payer, so why not everybody else?
 




rogersix

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You seem to be clear there is a problem (obesity), so what's the solution? If the kids are obese, as you are saying, the state should provide a healthy, balanced, meal to provide the nutrients to help them lose weight. If they are starving they should provide a meal for obvious reasons.The long term benefits of a society having healthy children far outweigh the small short-term cost.

Alongside this there should public health campaigns to encourage healthy eating etc but until they, and whatever other policies, have an impact, just give the kids a healthy a meal they wouldn't otherwise wouldn't have.

unarguable
 


rogersix

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Yep, as per previous post with link to HM Govt stats that confirm children in deprived areas are 4 times likely to be obese than peers in non deprived areas.

This is not new though, society is going through quite perverse social change, for years the fat used to be the rich, now they are poor.

Poor dietary habits and lack of exercise are affecting the poor in a profound way, if it was the rich and influential that had dietary habits and lack of mobility that was driving costs to the public purse they would not say anything about it.

to be rich and influential means, to have choices
 


rogersix

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we are talking about poor children needing food paid for by taxpayers (over and above their benefits) to prevent their hunger.

Therefore i am assuming if they were so poor then they would be exercising more as their parents would not have a car.

These poor starving children would not be staying in to use their ipads, watch their sky and play their gaming systems, they would be out, not to play, but helping their poor parents make money.

these children would not be obese would they?

wtaf....... Really?
 




Chicken Run

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You seem to be clear there is a problem (obesity), so what's the solution? If the kids are obese, as you are saying, the state should provide a healthy, balanced, meal to provide the nutrients to help them lose weight. If they are starving they should provide a meal for obvious reasons.The long term benefits of a society having healthy children far outweigh the small short-term cost.

Alongside this there should public health campaigns to encourage healthy eating etc but until they, and whatever other policies, have an impact, just give the kids a healthy a meal they wouldn't otherwise wouldn't have.

Regretfully the parents of such children, in number, are not interested in investing time , money or enthusiasm in feeding their children healthy food, many children only have one parent at home, and that parent often sees mealtime as annoyance and will quite literally fill the hole quickly and unimaginative as possible, chicken nuggets and chips 3 times a week.

If you gave this type of parent £100 xtra a week do you think they would spend it on fresh fruit , veg and start cooking from scratch?

Thankfully the birth rate in the UK is falling which means ultimately in 20 years there will be less children in poverty.
 




rogersix

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It’s not “also a problem” their is no comparison between the 2 issues, child obesity is real child starvation is not, and certainly not among the poor.

If you and Saint Marcus want to combat child obesity by asking taxpayers to fund a school dinner programme for fat kids that’s fine by me but let’s have some honesty about it. It’s for fatties not skinnies.

It’s not strange at all, I have a general unease with anyone famous using their fame for political ends. Whether that’s Bono, Chris Martin, Jamie Oliver etc. If singers, cooks and footballers want to make political points, they can take the shit that comes with it.

There are plenty of famous people that do good stuff and keep their mouths shut, I was never a big fan of David Beckham, but I felt sorry for him as he did a lot of good work without shouting about it from the roof tops.

If Saint Marcus, his PR exec squeeze and BBC journalist Sally Nugent want to make waves politically so be it, I don’t have to buy what they’re selling.

wtaf....... i know he's white but, ..................really?
 




Randy McNob

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No. Cunning Fergus is a racist. How many times do I have to tell you that I am not "left wing"? I'm a centrist and I take offence at you calling me something in not. So pack it in please.

Well actually if you show compassion for your fellow people or you want a better society you're a marxist unfortunately

Far more fashionable to jump in the Murdoch / Dacre hate wagon these days
 




cunning fergus

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No. Cunning Fergus is a racist. How many times do I have to tell you that I am not "left wing"? I'm a centrist and I take offence at you calling me something in not. So pack it in please.




This is one of your more enlightening posts.......I can visualise you typing this one out with tears running down your cheeks, lips wobbling and your mattress propped up against the radiator.

All the panes in your house have been smashed, but without a shred of irony or self awareness I suspect you will be chucking online stones again soon enough such is your sense of self righteousness.

Given your username I thought you were older but I reckon you must be quite young. Don’t fret though, you will mature in time and not worry what some people say about you on a chat forum.
 




cunning fergus

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wtaf....... i know he's white but, ..................really?

Yeah he’s really white............I have respect for him..............does good shit, and been doing good shit for years.........don’t see him on social media campaigns getting political. Mental eh, get your head round that.
 










cunning fergus

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Well actually if you show compassion for your fellow people or you want a better society you're a marxist unfortunately

Far more fashionable to jump in the Murdoch / Dacre hate wagon these days


Good point, and if you disagree with Marxists that inevitably makes you racist or fascist, such is the state of political discourse these days.

That’s why these threads are in the bear pit, we can get down in the dirt without worrying about hurting others feelings.

Good innit.
 


Randy McNob

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Wtaf.............which poor kids ain’t getting tax payer subsidised meals now..............stupid facker.

I think your quote is illogical since this is what taxes are for, they are not subsidies, and many of the recipients would also be taxpayers.
 


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