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simmo

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Feb 8, 2008
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So he was a combatant then? What proof do we have of that other than that he was in Afghanistan?

Like I said earlier on the only people whom truly know that are the people whom captured him.

We can argue all night long whether he was or wasn't but I presume none of us were actually there to witness what he was actually doing.

But........ask yourself this, why was he in a war zone that was obviously an incredibly dangerous place to be. Why wasn't he in Ethiopia? where he seems to come from or in Britain? Why Afghanistan in war time, when he seems to have no ties to the place nor reason to be there.
 




Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,335
Brighton factually.....
Whats the odds on this guy selling his story to the papers claiming compensation off "our goverment" and applying for asylum here.....Theres a few quid, at the cost to the tax payer again. Why do we have to pay through the bloody nose everytime for people who do not belive in our way of life which IS tolerant to all. Everytime you see them on tv telling us they hate the west, there drinking coke and wearing levi jeans with a nike top and a yankees baseball hat....!! go figure.....they are blind prats.
 
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Bevendean Hillbilly

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Sep 4, 2006
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Nestling in green nowhere
He was not captured in a war zone although he admits to having been trained in weapons etc at one of those nice mens "adventure camps" in Pakistan before going to Afghanistan to see the Muslim world for himself and cure his heroin addiction.
He was in Afghanistan for a short period before returning to Pakistan.

He was picked up on a false passport in Islamabad trying to get a flight to the UK.

The U.S alleges that he is trained in making so called dirty bombs combining Radioactive materials with conventional explosives..allegedly once in London he would contacted local Muslim fanatics before continuing his journey to the US.Apparently under torture he has revealed a detailed knowlege of how to prepare these devices and how to steal medical / commercial radioactive material

He was obviously up to something although whether he was seriously able to carry out a real attack is debatable. The simple fact is that he is an ethiopian who admits to being trained by terrorist groups in Pakistanwho failed to get asylum status here who is now being repatriated to Britain following arrest on a false passport...WHAT THE f*** IS THAT ALL ABOUT!
 






Common as Mook

Not Posh as Fook
Jul 26, 2004
5,642
It'a amazing what types of thread bring the resident knuckle-draggers out to play. All the usual supects are out to play in this thread :nono:
 








NO NO. i agree the regime was wrong. i question what gives us the right to decide who is in charge? Mugabe is just as bad, why don't we remove him? answer there is no money in doing so. You believe that just as he is a muslim he is a terrorist?! if a white man was there and said he was on aid duty you would have NO questions, but due to this mans faith and colour you assume his guilt. as for corrupt regimes have you ever looked at the U.S govt system?! (i would just like to point out i am not anti U.S) or the torture methods used to question people like the man returning to the u.k. is that any better than what the taliban have done? should we not invade the u.s to stop things like this happening? as regards to the drugs, you can hardly blame the peasants for growing heroin, if you have a choice between starvation/ not feeding your family or a quick buck for growing poppies (which by the way will never effect you or your society as drugs are not permitted under islamic law) would you not take the offer of the drug barons offering you considerably more money than you would get growing a crop which would most likely fail under the climatic conditions.
I'm not judging him by the colour of his skin, or the fact that he is a muslem does not make him a terrorist.if a white man was there claiming to be an aid worker,the chances are that he would be known to the authorities and would have the papers to proove it.re the U.S gvt being corrupt,i would agree,but in America you are granted human rights freedom of worship,freedom of sexuality with out the fear of being stoned to death.re poppy fields,the peasants, as you put it, are being offered alternitave ways to make money,and some are,but the fear of a visit from the taliban has detured others.re Mugabe.if there was proof that THIS GENTLEMAN was involved in terror activities,i'm sure that he would be visited by Uncle Sam.I have many Muslem friends and admire them greatly.To try and use the Race card, does not work with me my friend,but I appreciate your right to use it if you so wish.We do live in a free soceity which some would want to deny us.you might also be surprised to know that i fully support The people of Gaza in there fight for freedom
God bless you and your family
 
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DJ Leon

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Aug 30, 2003
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Hassocks
Like I said earlier on the only people whom truly know that are the people whom captured him.

We can argue all night long whether he was or wasn't but I presume none of us were actually there to witness what he was actually doing.

But........ask yourself this, why was he in a war zone that was obviously an incredibly dangerous place to be. Why wasn't he in Ethiopia? where he seems to come from or in Britain? Why Afghanistan in war time, when he seems to have no ties to the place nor reason to be there.

Yep, all good questions, but you're suggesting that it was right to detain him indefinitley though, aren't you? Is it enough that we was just there?
 








Rusthall Seagull

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Jul 16, 2003
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Tunbridge wells
Yep, all good questions, but you're suggesting that it was right to detain him indefinitley though, aren't you? Is it enough that we was just there?

that is exactly what he is suggesting - they should have done this because the Taliban would of cut off their heads if it had been the other way around...tit for tat and all that
 


simmo

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Feb 8, 2008
2,787
Yep, all good questions, but you're suggesting that it was right to detain him indefinitley though, aren't you? Is it enough that we was just there?


He is a POW, the US have no obligation to release him, but they do because the naive scream for his release.

If he is claiming he is British, then he should be arrested on landing and tried for treason as he was fighting for the enemy of Britain. If he is not claiming to be British then what the hell is he doing flying into the UK (to no doubt a hero's welcome in some communities).
 


I think you will find that he did in fact supply the Mudjahadin with weapons in their war against the Russians, not the Taliban!

Mujahadin roughly translated means the holy struggle. Same people different name my friend.
 




simmo

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Feb 8, 2008
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that is exactly what he is suggesting - they should have done this because the Taliban would of cut off their heads if it had been the other way around...tit for tat and all that

I notice you didn't answer any of my post.

So the Taliban would have put the British aid worker on trial in front of judge and jury and he would have been found not guilty and released immediately. Yeh right!
 


gruntage

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Jan 14, 2008
1,220
Bristol
Like I said earlier on the only people whom truly know that are the people whom captured him.

We can argue all night long whether he was or wasn't but I presume none of us were actually there to witness what he was actually doing.

But........ask yourself this, why was he in a war zone that was obviously an incredibly dangerous place to be. Why wasn't he in Ethiopia? where he seems to come from or in Britain? Why Afghanistan in war time, when he seems to have no ties to the place nor reason to be there.

humanitarian aid?! just like lots of aid workers went to Iraq, many of which as has been pointed out were murdered.

just because he is a Muslim does not mean he cannot go to provide aid. Again, if he was a WHITE BRITISH NATIONAL, i can guarantee the majority of you would be up in arms that an innocent caring 'Brit' had been illegally captured.

as regards the comment why shouldn't we trust the soldiers that caught him, why shouldn't we trust the man who was caught? what makes their word any better? is it because they aren't muslim? Secondly, when have the american Army done anything to demand their trust. the war in Iraq was a farce (loads of weapons) and the pictures of the torturing their men have carried out sums up exactly why they should NOT be trusted. at least the taliban don't try to cover up their crimes. (note: i am in no way defending what the taliban have done/are doing - it is VERY wrong)

quick note: - if this is a WAR as it is meant to be, does that mean that any soldiers the taliban capture are allowed to be kept like dogs for 7 years as they are P.O.W's? as it is only a matter of opinion that we believe we are right to fight. surely the taliban believe they are just (whether that is correct or not is not for me to say) and therefore any pow's caught are entitled to be treated like shit, like Binyam Mohammed was?

alternatively - we are moral, and do not stoop to such levels. people are innocent until proven guilty, are treated humanly and just, otherwise, how are we any better than those we are trying to remove?
 
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