[Albion] We f***ed it up again, ole ole!

[oldboyroy]

Entirely predictable. We're not as good as we like to think we are. I had us down for a 1:2 defeat. Palace aren't exactly kings of Europe, but they don't know what capitulation is, whilst we're a soft touch. I think we needed a wake up call, and unfortunately it was Palace that we allowed to provide it. Thank god we only need 16 points to stay up.

I was hoping our wake up call came last weeks capitulation at Leicester when team thought game was won.

 

[A1X]

Sang it just before the first goal…..

Another fail by us…..

I’d love to know if there’s a statistical correlation between us singing it and us conceding, because it feels like it happens every time

 

[TottonSeagull]

Levi Colwill was the one that got away on that score

The Boy Wonder would turn Levi into a cart horse!!!

 

[GT49er]

Blimey. He’s only been here since August. Potter had yonks until he came good

Potter had to completely turn around the team played, from being ultra-defensive, try and snatch a goal and hang on for dear life to a fluid, attack-minded passing team. That was called a project, remember - which we all (or nearly all) realised would take time. That's why, apart from the manner of his departure to Chelsea, it was so annoying that he left just as those years of hard work were coming to fruition.

 

[UnhingedSeagull94]

Don’t think we’ll be singing the Euro version of that song again this season somehow.

Good!

 

[GT49er]

Levi Colwill was the one that got away on that score

Holding on to Fikayo Tomori would have been useful too.

 

[UnhingedSeagull94]

Unfortunately time has caught up with Dunk.
He has been a wonderful player , captain and inspiration but his best days are now behind him.
we need to invest in another centre half or recall a loanee.
Use Igor instead of Dunk in the lnterim as he has showed he deserves his place in the team

McConville is worth a run out at Norwich.

 

[UnhingedSeagull94]

If that summer splurge really was it for a while then the follies of not succession planning Dunk and adding a genuine full back instead of someone who can do a job will come back to haunt us. Still, who needs a defence when you’ve got 375 right wingers and number 10s.

I take it you aren’t familiar with the names Turns and McConville??

 

[UnhingedSeagull94]

It’s actually quite funny. Serves the clowns right for singing such song in the first place.

At least people are making an effort to sing something and get behind the team.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I’d love to know if there’s a statistical correlation between us singing it and us conceding, because it feels like it happens every time

Did at Leicester, definitely

 

[GT49er]

I take it you aren’t familiar with the names Turns and McConville??

Both are strong candidates for a loan in January. Turns is 22 and has had a couple of loan spells in League 2; with his contract ending in the summer the loan is likely to b of the 'shop-window' variety. McConville is younger - I suppose he could do a Hinshelwood and move straight from PL2 to the PL, but that's a huge ask, especially for a 19 year old CB.
Still, Hurzeler has shown he's not averse to playing youngsters like Hinsh, Baleba and Ayari, so who knows?

 

[Binney on acid]

Capitulation …. 4-1 last season.

I presume you are referring to the match that Eze missed through injury, and Olise, a genuine world class player, was carrying an injury and only came on as a substitute after 47 minutes.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

You could see early in the duels that the Palace players believed they could win them whereas ours hoped they could.

Looked very insecure and out of confidence. Don't think it was a lack of motivation, more a problem of too much fear.

Spot on.

 

[LamieRobertson]

I presume you are referring to the match that Eze missed through injury, and Olise, a genuine world class player, was carrying an injury and only came on as a substitute after 47 minutes.

And went off 10 mins later…..plus Guhei went off injured early first half

 

[Bold Seagull]

With today’s setup - the high fullbacks, little cover or holding in the midfield, huge
spaces either side of VH and Dunk; wouldn’t have mattered if you’d have had a fully fit peak Canavaro back there, we were tactically stretched and dispensed with any real cover.

Dunk is only 33 not 37!, needs a few games after an injury to get fully match fit. Igor made a huge unforced error for Leicester’s equaliser.

 

[Eric the meek]

You could see early in the duels that the Palace players believed they could win them whereas ours hoped they could.

Looked very insecure and out of confidence. Don't think it was a lack of motivation, more a problem of too much fear.

That's the best comment I've seen from you. Confidence - and lack of confidence - is very underrated.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Potter inherited a shit PL squad, Fabian has our best ever squad and is stumbling along a bit cluelessly though?

As discussed he doesn’t

 

[Weststander]

With today’s setup - the high fullbacks, little cover or holding in the midfield, huge
spaces either side of VH and Dunk; wouldn’t have mattered if you’d have had a fully fit peak Canavaro back there, we were tactically stretched and dispensed with any real cover.

Dunk is only 33 not 37!, needs a few games after an injury to get fully match fit. Igor made a huge unforced error for Leicester’s equaliser.

Would you have played a different set up due to that list of constraints?

 

[Flounce]

As discussed he doesn’t

Once again and unusually we’ll have to agree to differ. Potter and RDZ, before he went rogue, would have got the best out of the current players and both would have done much much better than Fabian with the current squad imo. We could even be challenging for top four, rather than sliding down the table having underperformed in every single game since Brentford. Fabian is in crisis imo now and I am not convinced he’ll be turning it around. There are no positives in how he sets up his teams recently, we look vulnerable and shaky every time the opposition breaks. Shit in defence, shit attacking and out fought in midfield.

 

[Han Solo]

Potter inherited a shit PL squad, Fabian has our best ever squad and is stumbling along a bit cluelessly though?

First part is true, second isn't. This team is not as good as the one two-three years ago. They may well be in a year, but right now we have a bunch of (very talented) rookies/semi-rookies learning to play in the league.

Its also a squad with ~28 players and most of them on a similar level as each other. Both Potter and De Zerbi inherited squads with a clearer hierarchy whereas neither Hurz nor us know what the 15-16 man "core" is.

Imo, we signed too many attacking players in the summer. They're competing with each other as much as with the opponents.