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We cannot sack hyypia - fact



Tubby-McFat-Fuc

Well-known member
May 2, 2013
1,845
Brighton
It would be unlawful.

Remember a certain Mr Poyet.

Remember, according to Mr Bloom at the time, Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club do things in the correct manner.

We would have to suspended Hyypia from his duties and give him the right of appeal, which would take three weeks.

We could not discuss anything in that time, as it would be unfair on Sami if we did.

So anyone wanting Sami sacked, and a new manager in by Monday think again. He may be suspended, but who's going to run the side for the next three weeks and in what capacity can they do it?
 




Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
It would be unlawful.

Remember a certain Mr Poyet.

Remember, according to Mr Bloom at the time, Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club do things in the correct manner.

We would have to suspended Hyypia from his duties and give him the right of appeal, which would take three weeks.

We could not discuss anything in that time, as it would be unfair on Sami if we did.

So anyone wanting Sami sacked, and a new manager in by Monday think again. He may be suspended, but who's going to run the side for the next three weeks and in what capacity can they do it?

Err no we could pay him off at any time. We didn't pay poyet a dime that was the reason for all the legal bruhaha
 


clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
It would be unlawful.

Remember a certain Mr Poyet.

Remember, according to Mr Bloom at the time, Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club do things in the correct manner.

We would have to suspended Hyypia from his duties and give him the right of appeal, which would take three weeks.

We could not discuss anything in that time, as it would be unfair on Sami if we did.

So anyone wanting Sami sacked, and a new manager in by Monday think again. He may be suspended, but who's going to run the side for the next three weeks and in what capacity can they do it?

Hopefully, there will be a results 'clause' in his contract and that may be triggered at some stage.

Surely you wouldn't give someone with minimal managerial experience a watertight 3yr contract.
 


Err no we could pay him off at any time. We didn't pay poyet a dime that was the reason for all the legal bruhaha

There will also be clauses in his contract no doubt that if we get promoted, bonuses, if a Prem club wants him he can speak to them, similarily if we go down the club could relieve him of his duties, or perhaps if we are even in the bottom 3 at the half way mark in the season?

These MDs & top lawyers are pretty switched on!
 


Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
Not strictly true, we can pay his contract up (not going to happen), come to an agreement (say pay him to the end of the season) or put him on leave with full pay until he gets a new job. Not to mention numerous clauses in his contract
I have my doubts as whether any manager is sacked (i.e. no financial package behind it) without a gross failing in his duties
 




c0lz

North East Stand.
Jan 26, 2010
2,203
Patcham/Brighton
I would imagine the club has learnt it lesson's from the past and a safeguard put in place.
 


jonny.rainbow

Well-known member
Oct 29, 2005
6,846
Suspend him for misuse of work email or something.

Surely he's looked at some smut on his work smartphone at some point?
 


Husty

Mooderator
Oct 18, 2008
11,998
There will also be clauses in his contract no doubt that if we get promoted, bonuses, if a Prem club wants him he can speak to them, similarily if we go down the club could relieve him of his duties, or perhaps if we are even in the bottom 3 at the half way mark in the season?

These MDs & top lawyers are pretty switched on!

So much for having me on your ignore list then, you :tosser:
 




Sergio Garcia

Member
Jul 30, 2011
189
It would be unlawful.

Remember a certain Mr Poyet.

Remember, according to Mr Bloom at the time, Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club do things in the correct manner.

We would have to suspended Hyypia from his duties and give him the right of appeal, which would take three weeks.

We could not discuss anything in that time, as it would be unfair on Sami if we did.

So anyone wanting Sami sacked, and a new manager in by Monday think again. He may be suspended, but who's going to run the side for the next three weeks and in what capacity can they do it?

Compromise agreement is the quickest option- but it will cost
 


smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,376
On the ocean wave
It would be unlawful.

Remember a certain Mr Poyet.

Remember, according to Mr Bloom at the time, Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club do things in the correct manner.

We would have to suspended Hyypia from his duties and give him the right of appeal, which would take three weeks.

We could not discuss anything in that time, as it would be unfair on Sami if we did.

So anyone wanting Sami sacked, and a new manager in by Monday think again. He may be suspended, but who's going to run the side for the next three weeks and in what capacity can they do it?

A well thought out & completely accurate post......
 






Sergio Garcia

Member
Jul 30, 2011
189
A well thought out & completely accurate post......

In accurate - what would he be suspended for ? unless there is a clause that sets out Key performance indicators relating to league position & results ....then the quickest way for Sami to exit is for Bloom to buy him out of his contract subject to whatever the terms of his contract of employment. this could be viewed as a compromise agreement. Poyet was different as he was disciplined first which indicates that he breached his terms.
 


Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
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NSC Patron
Jul 23, 2003
37,342
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
You make it sound like following contractual agreements and adhering to contract law is a bad thing?

If we write contracts that allow people who are unable to do the job given to them to the satisfaction of the staff, management and "customers" to be kept in employment then it is a very bad thing indeed. We probably don't though.
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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It would be unlawful.

Remember a certain Mr Poyet.

Remember, according to Mr Bloom at the time, Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club do things in the correct manner.

We would have to suspended Hyypia from his duties and give him the right of appeal, which would take three weeks.

We could not discuss anything in that time, as it would be unfair on Sami if we did.

So anyone wanting Sami sacked, and a new manager in by Monday think again. He may be suspended, but who's going to run the side for the next three weeks and in what capacity can they do it?

Unless you know the contents of his contract, how can you say such such a move would be unlawful ? The law does not dictate what is in a contract so much as minimum legal requirements.
 




Seagull over Canaryland

Well-known member
Feb 8, 2011
3,557
Norfolk
It would be unlawful.

Remember a certain Mr Poyet.

Remember, according to Mr Bloom at the time, Brighton & Hove Albion Football Club do things in the correct manner.

We would have to suspended Hyypia from his duties and give him the right of appeal, which would take three weeks.

We could not discuss anything in that time, as it would be unfair on Sami if we did.

So anyone wanting Sami sacked, and a new manager in by Monday think again. He may be suspended, but who's going to run the side for the next three weeks and in what capacity can they do it?

There will be a performance related element to Sami's contract. The results of 'his' football team speak for themselves and I suspect there won't be many significant mitigating factors, so he will be fully accountable, and liable for termination of his contract. There will be a sliding scale of conditions in which he might be eligible for compensation. However the current circumstances mean he is most likely to receive the minimum payoff. The Albion will only need to show it has been 'fair and reasonable' in complying with its side of the contract and provide objective evidence where Sami has failed to deliver his side.
 




Westdene Wonder

New member
Aug 3, 2010
1,787
Brighton
There is no point in sacking Sammi now,no decent manager would want to lead our collection of loan and division 1 standard players in our present position in the league,our last two managers left when faced with the poor financial situation at the club, We have too many in the squad and few who we could cash in on the transfer market,our only option is to appoint a top coach and hope to pick up enough points to avoid relegation.
 


GT49er

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NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
49,186
Gloucester
We cannot sack hyypia - not fact

There is nothing illegal about sacking an employee who is not up to the job, providing all the required steps - verbal warnings, written warnings, etc. - are applied correctly.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,416
Location Location
Jesus H Corbett, what an absolute load of old BOBBINS

Of course we can sack Hyypia. We are not "bound" by whatever process kicked off in the eventual binning of Poyet. ANYONE can be sacked, its just a question of the level of compo after the event. There is nothing "unlawful" in sacking anyone who is underperforming.

Christ up a stick, is this the shite we're in for tonight ? Its almost driving me to X-Factor *






*gross exaggeration by author
 


smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,376
On the ocean wave
In accurate - what would he be suspended for ? unless there is a clause that sets out Key performance indicators relating to league position & results ....then the quickest way for Sami to exit is for Bloom to buy him out of his contract subject to whatever the terms of his contract of employment. this could be viewed as a compromise agreement. Poyet was different as he was disciplined first which indicates that he breached his terms.

Blimey, whoosh.
 


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