[Albion] Was that a penalty to B’muff???

[moggy]

Watching on a stream yesterday and they seem it could’ve been. Didn’t think it was during real time. Reading the uothecherries forum, they seem to think it was.
The estupinan barge

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Yes. Their outrage when it wasn't awarded was highly amusing.

 

[medwayseagull reborn]

Not by current standards. A lot of these not given. VAR dismissed it quickly.

 

[nickbrighton]

If a player launching himself into the middle of Welbecks back isnt a pernalty then a shoulder to shoulder bump certainly isnt

 

[Triggaaar]

It wasn't a stonewaller, but could have been given. I don't think it was enough for VAR to overturn. It wasn't as bad as the foul on Mac Alliser, which should have been overturned.

And this:

If a player launching himself into the middle of Welbecks back isnt a pernalty then a shoulder to shoulder bump certainly isnt

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Sorry is this the Estupinan barge, or handball?

I didn't think either were.
Possibly blue-tinted specs, but the barge was pretty standard "strength", the other was ball to hand, with arms in normal position.

Not for me Clive.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Not a chance. Heavy touch and about as much of a foul as 5he one on Veltman, which wasn’t either…. Went down far to easily.

 

[HAILSHAM SEAGULL]

It was an exact replica of when Welbz got barged by Matic I think for the dippers and that was ruled no penalty, so same outcome.
There has to be consistency

 

[amexer]

We all felt the Welbeck one was a penalty and this was the same

 

[JamesAndTheGiantHead]

It was the footballing equivalent of an Umpire’s Call.

It wouldn’t have been overturned whichever decision the ref went with.

 

[Acker79]

Just watching the 30 minutes highlights from sky sports. It's side to side, Estupinian isn't trying to win the ball, and his shoulder is a little lower than the Bournemouth player's, so not sure I'd say it was quite shoulder-to-shoulder. He blocks the attacker and muscle him away from the ball. There is a slight bit of forward movement with his arm into the side of the attacker, but not any real force or particular violence, more shaking him off. To me, that is the key thing here - there isn't enough force or violent for it to be anything more than outmuscling the attacker.

We see such challenges ignored all over the pitch and tell the outmuscled player they just weren't strong enough.

I genuinely cannot remember the Welbeck incident some peole are comparing it to.

Just seeing the Veltman incident by the dugout. Never a foul. He felt a hand on his back and threw himself to the ground.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

I wouldn't have moaned too much if it had been given. It felt like a very risky challenge to make in the penalty box.

 

[Taybha]

No intention or chance to win the ball, definitely a penalty, exactly the same not given on Welbeck a few weeks ago so at least there's a bit of consistency in the ineptitude of refereeing, because anywhere else on the pitch that challenge is a no questions asked free kick

 

[Hugo Rune]

We all felt the Welbeck one was a penalty and this was the same

I agree with this BUT there seems to be some consistency now. Seems as though you can’t give a penalty unless there are arms or legs involved (Although replays showed Welbeck was actually kicked as well as pushed).

 

[moggy]

Sorry is this the Estupinan barge, or handball?

I didn't think either were.
Possibly blue-tinted specs, but the barge was pretty standard "strength", the other was ball to hand, with arms in normal position.

Not for me Clive.

The estupinan barge

 

[Oh_aye]

I haven't seen any of the game back but I felt there was a handball. I was so certain of it that I'd literally resigned myself to it being a penalty and couldn't quite believe it when the game restarted.

 

[One Love]

I haven't seen any of the game back but I felt there was a handball. I was so certain of it that I'd literally resigned myself to it being a penalty and couldn't quite believe it when the game restarted.

That's not a penalty with the new hand ball rules.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I haven't seen any of the game back but I felt there was a handball. I was so certain of it that I'd literally resigned myself to it being a penalty and couldn't quite believe it when the game restarted.

Me too, but having seen it back, it was clearly ball to hand, with arms in a natural position.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

The estupinan barge

Having not been given far worse and had goals scored against us for forward using considerably more "strength", nowhere near a penalty.

 

[stss30]

As others have said, if it was given on field it wouldn't have been overturned I don't think. But given the shove into Welbeck's back wasn't given the other week, it's swings and roundabouts