[Albion] Was forcing Sanchez out the worst decision our club has made in years?

[southstandandy]

Eeeerrr Sanchez refused to play. Didn’t want to be part of the squad.

This

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Ha! That’s being kind tbh. It’s a complete joke of an answer. Slagging off someone’s character and professionalism as a truism and then saying, “I read it on NSC” is an interesting defence.

For what it is worth, I heard exactly the opposite from well-placed sources I trust. Plus other comments about the sudden departure of the entire medical team. But I would never repeat them on here unless I was 100% confident I could back them up.

Ha, yeah I'm with you, but people will believe what they want to believe and no point arguing with them. All you can do is make sure the facts are laid out best as they can be and allow all the silent readers to make up their own minds.

 

[Freddo]

People saying he didn’t refuse to play is missing the point. Footballers get paid to train and make themselves available for selection (which includes being on the bench). Sanchez downed tools rather than doing what he was paid to do.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

This

We're not talking about that, we're talking about the decision to drop and not recall which led inexorably to his departure

 

[Thunder Bolt]

That's not really a satisfactory answer, but OK

Ok, this article is very good regarding decision making.

https://theathletic.com/4302135/2023/03/14/brighton-steele-sanchez-dezerbi/

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Ok, this article is very good regarding decision making.

https://theathletic.com/4302135/2023/03/14/brighton-steele-sanchez-dezerbi/

Yep, that's why I thought RDZ did it. However whilst that style of play was amazing for a brief period, it's largely been found out and we don't do it that much anymore. Steele is going long or chipping wide with little through the middle. His kicking has become pretty poor of late. Bart just gives me kittens every time he plays straight out from the back, three times he went direct through the middle today, twice intercepted, once almost.

A keeper who is great at saving shots and has that footwork, yes please, sign me up. Aren't many outside the top couple of clubs. Lacking that, give me an Emi Martinez any day.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Haven't read all of this thread, because it's just some ones personal preference for and against, but...
If we'd just hooved the ball up field there would be less mistakes, right? This could lead to the ball going back to the opposition and them attacking. So high risk, high reward football can open up spaces for us to attack. This season, there has been an unprecedented amount of mistakes from outfield players which have led to goals, more so than keeper error. Law of averages then show you'll ship more goals when you're left exposed and it doesn't matter which keeper is between the sticks.
Big Bob didn't want to play the rotational game, so sat in the corner and sulked. This system doesn't suit all players, but this constant harping on after a run of bad form about former players who didn't want to play for us anymore gets my back up

This.

Today we didn't quite have enough players with nous and/or energy to play the high risk ball, till Welbz came on and Dunky started to find him. Against a better side, we could have come a cropper today. Some good performances, but to be top 6 we need 16 players all at the top of their game, ready to slot into a largely full strength side week in week out. We have maybe 5 such players presently, some capable of better but looking off colour owing to gaps in the overall quality. Even Eddy Merckx would look a bit shit with one pedal missing from his bike.

 

[Weststander]

Yep, that's why I thought RDZ did it. However whilst that style of play was amazing for a brief period, it's largely been found out and we don't do it that much anymore. Steele is going long or chipping wide with little through the middle. His kicking has become pretty poor of late. Bart just gives me kittens every time he plays straight out from the back, three times he went direct through the middle today, twice intercepted, once almost.

A keeper who is great at saving shots and has that footwork, yes please, sign me up. Aren't many outside the top couple of clubs. Lacking that, give me an Emi Martinez any day.

Brief period? The best part of 12 months up to Sept 23.

 

[nwgull]

Brief period? The best part of 12 months up to Sept 23.

I read that he was talking about brief period when Steele got away with not being so good at the goal keeping side of his position. This was from about March to May then first 4-5 weeks of this season.

 

[nwgull]

Going back to Sanchez specifically. Yesterday I watched the montage that the YouTube channel put up when he left. I always remember him being really good at making himself big and really hard to beat in a one-on-one with that long-barrier technique. What I’d forgotten was how good he was at getting up off the floor quickly after making an initial save to then be in position to deal with the rebound.

 

[sussex_guy2k2]

The stats show Steele higher in the table than Bart not by much but statistically steels been the better

I believe it was Winston Churchill who said “The only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself”

I’d love to see where you’re getting your stats from. It’s none of the main football stats websites I look at.

In fact, I’m yet to see a single thing back up your point.

 

[DJ NOBO]

We pretty much swapped Sanchez for Bart.
Imo Bart will become a better keeper. Not by much, but better all the same.

 

[Springal]

Already warming the bench at Chelsea isn’t he ? With his mate as goalkeeper coach

 

[Bry Nylon]

Already warming the bench at Chelsea isn’t he ? With his mate as goalkeeper coach

People pick and choose what’s happening at Chelsea to suit their agenda at any one time.

One minute they are a joke club who wouldn’t know their arse from their elbow with a clueless approach to recruitment; then the next they are a great judge of ability?

Besides, if the choice is warming the bench at Brighton or warming the bench at Chelsea on x3 the salary plus 10% of a signing on fee, it’s a pretty straightforward decision.

 

[Weststander]

People pick and choose what’s happening at Chelsea to suit their agenda at any one time.

One minute they are a joke club who wouldn’t know their arse from their elbow with a clueless approach to recruitment; then the next they are a great judge of ability?

Besides, if the choice is warming the bench at Brighton or warming the bench at Chelsea on x3 the salary plus 10% of a signing on fee, it’s a pretty straightforward decision.

I’ve not heard that from anyone. Ever.

They’re a laughing stock, Boehly and latterly Winstanley are derided as the worst example of transfers incompetence.

 

[Springal]

People pick and choose what’s happening at Chelsea to suit their agenda at any one time.

One minute they are a joke club who wouldn’t know their arse from their elbow with a clueless approach to recruitment; then the next they are a great judge of ability?

Besides, if the choice is warming the bench at Brighton or warming the bench at Chelsea on x3 the salary plus 10% of a signing on fee, it’s a pretty straightforward decision.

Not really - just making the point he left here because he didn’t want to be sat on the bench. And now he’s sat on the bench within half a season at a club 11th in the PL.

Not going to help him get back in the Spain squad nor his aversion to sitting on a bench

 

[chickens]

We're not talking about that, we're talking about the decision to drop and not recall which led inexorably to his departure

Which is the manager’s/head coach’s decision to make. He had his warning. RDZ said in a press conference prior to his strop that (paraphrasing coz I can’t remember precise words)

“Robert would do well to take on the advice of <name of goalkeeping coach>.”

The goalkeeping coach clearly felt that Sanchez was not listening to/taking on board what he was being asked to do, and the upshot of that is that he wasn’t picked with preference given to a player who perhaps didn’t have the same raw figures, but was listening to what was being asked of him.

I have no sympathy for Sanchez, he chose his path rather than to accept the challenge of improving in the areas he was being asked to improve in.

I’m delighted he was put on the conveyer belt to Chelsea, and frankly I hope he’s happy at being on the bench for a far higher wage than he would have achieved at Brighton.

 

[Reddleman]

Off the top of my head I can think of three absolutely horrendous errors Sanchez made last season that all lead directly to goals.

Neither Steele or Verbruggen have that many this season.

He wasn’t good enough for us, he’s clearly not good enough for Chelsea plus he’s got a terrible attitude. Good riddance.

 

[dazzer6666]

It was posted on here by people known to be right.

…..…and challenged by some who equally might be right

 

[Bry Nylon]

Off the top of my head I can think of three absolutely horrendous errors Sanchez made last season that all lead directly to goals.

Neither Steele or Verbruggen have that many this season.

He wasn’t good enough for us, he’s clearly not good enough for Chelsea plus he’s got a terrible attitude. Good riddance.

Ramsdale made a horrendous error Saturday that led directly to a goal, then pulled off a couple of worldies. In isolation they can mean a lot or they can mean very little.

By the same token I can recall Steele shipping threes (multiple times) fours (multiple times) fives and sixes. Often in the first few minutes, which gives us a mountain to climb. Plus I can’t recall a clean sheet until around Christmas.

Anyway, it’s not a hill I’m especially bothered about dying on. De Zerbis policy of rotating keepers is on him and on here people seem happy with Steele. Back in the day, losing would genuinely ruin my weekend and cloud my mood till the next game. These days I’m pretty much over it within 3 minutes of the final whistle. It is what it is, as a wise philosopher of history once said to Johnathan Pearce after drawing with Leeds at home.