Cian
Well-known member
Often actually beatable on real open roads, if you drive like a ****wit - "hypermiling".
They never reflect real world town driving, even the 'extra-urban' figures though.
VW
- Thread starter Hampster Gull
- Start date
Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊
Often actually beatable on real open roads, if you drive like a ****wit - "hypermiling".
They never reflect real world town driving, even the 'extra-urban' figures though.
Leekbrookgull
Well-known member
Were Trabants ever tested like this ?
AmexRuislip
Retired Spy 🕵️♂️
AmexRuislip
Retired Spy 🕵️♂️
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
More than likely there is collusion within the Executives of VW and this went on for quite a while, the biggest issue is when you do this you cannot back down and so it goes on and on until a catastrophe is inevitable.
There will be quite a few people leaving VW over this, how they leave and the probable huge conga they will get to leave is another thing entirely.
There will be quite a few people leaving VW over this, how they leave and the probable huge conga they will get to leave is another thing entirely.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,019
ultimately, i blame the politicans and global warming lobby. they've obsessed over CO2 for so long at the expense of other pollution. policy has been to promote diesel, now there's concern over local emissions of particles and NOx. now we'll have a knee jerk the otherway no doubt banning something, which will have a further detremental effect somewhere.
lesson to learn - get back to petrol and stop taxing us on a tiny % of global CO2.
lesson to learn - get back to petrol and stop taxing us on a tiny % of global CO2.
pastafarian
Well-known member
im no greenie per say,but im looking to buy a new car mostly for a run around town,ive looked into everything from emissions ,insurance,tax,mpg etc etc and thought for the first time ill make a purchase which i have at least thought about re the environment......after reading many articles the worst thing i could do was buy a diesel car for a town environment.......i am 100% going petrol.....
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,273
Indeed. I think that the Yanks will be licking their hands in glee there is going to be some big money made now in fines and legal costs...
desprateseagull
New member
How many other firms, cooking the books, or doing the sly with iffy softwares..?
Garage_Doors
Originally the Swankers
When we bought our latest golf we initially wanted a diesel but when discussing our usage patten with the salespeople it transpired that a diesel was no good to use due to the diesel partial filter they us in them, we don't do enough long runs ie min 20 mile run once a week to clean it, If you don't do this it can damage it and costs £1000 to replace so we had to go petrol which wasn't a disappointment as it gave an extra 40 BHP.
If your car is mainly for short journeys and running around town, then a diesel would probably not be suitable anyway.
Possible DPF problems etc.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,273
If the Americans blow up a wedding party in Afghanistan by mistake or kill and maim thousands with a chemical leak in India it seems to be bad luck... But, fiddle your mileage figures for already gas guzzling yanks and you will be taken apart financially... It's a strange world.
QUOTE = Indeed I think that the Yanks will be licking their hands in glee there is going to be some big money made now in fines and legal costs...
wait until its shown that other car manufacturers have fiddled the figures . the big winner out of this is the law firms !
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Why lick their hands? Yuck!
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
*waits for enrest's thread about his new car*Hasn't stopped some inbred stealing my Golf R
Lower West Stander
Well-known member
This affects 11 m VW cars - only 500k of which are in the US.
The big problem is going to be Europe, the actual emissions which have polluted and the mpg numbers which have been distorted. This is all about deceit, not incompetence.
This is very different from the BP sue the crap of them situation.
Cian
Well-known member
If this spreads (well, spreaded, it'll have been done some time ago if it was) to other car makers, expect a huge backlash against diesels - motor tax and fuel excise on diesel could easily be ramped heavily. The current system of tax/sales tax if applicable on cars being based on carbon emissions only was kept on the assumption that the Euro V/VI rules would ensure that the pretty nasty nitrous and particulate emissions on diesels went down, but if they haven't there'll be hell to pay.
pb21
Well-known member
- Apr 23, 2010
- 6,689
Eh?!
https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/transport-emissions
Edit: similar proportions on a European and worldwide scale too.
Last edited: