matthew
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Vettel the best ever?
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Dave the OAP
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They interviewed Stirling moss the other day and he said vettel is the best there has been...even better than fangio and schumakker.
If he says so, then I will go with him.
Personally I think it is more interesting that a team basically run from an energy drink that pulverises the factory works teams like Ferrari and Renault/ Maclaren is the real skill in all of this.
If he says so, then I will go with him.
Personally I think it is more interesting that a team basically run from an energy drink that pulverises the factory works teams like Ferrari and Renault/ Maclaren is the real skill in all of this.
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Southern Toon
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I think Stirling Moss is going a bit senile in his old age. Back in 1992 when Nigel Mansell won his championship, Moss said at an end of season awards ceremony that his granny could have won in that years Williams FW15B. Strange he doesn't feel the same way about Vettels red bull car these past four years. As for Vettel being the best ever unless you put him in the same car as an Alonso or Hamilton, we will not even know if he's the best of the present generation. His present teamate Webber is not much more than a journeyman driver.
Garage_Doors
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My respect and opinion of him was lost when he ignore team orders earlier in the season when overtaking Webber when he did not need to.
Just showed that he has no respect for the team that employ him.
Always though he was a genuine nice bloke but since then have no time for him.
Just showed that he has no respect for the team that employ him.
Always though he was a genuine nice bloke but since then have no time for him.
16bha
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Not so sure. The frailties showed inMontreal 2 years ago when Jenson chased him down, nah he bottled it.
countryman
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That boosted my respect for him. Why should he let someone else win? Formula 1 is a sport, not a precession.
How would you have felt if you had placed a bet on him to win and he didn't try to win?
Tyrone Biggums
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Hard to deem someone the best ever in a sport where the team bosses in that sport tell the other driver on the team to let them win.
Gregory2Smith1
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good example,when you think what Senna did to both William's at Donington
Vettel wouldn't make top 5 at the moment
1 Senna
2 Prost
3 Alonso
4 Schumacher
then include the like's of Nuvolari,Fangio and Jim Clark
Icy Gull
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How can he be judged the best driver ever when his car is so good that it opens gaps of up to two seconds a lap at the start? Webber is very average and offers minimal competition to Vettel. When Vettel has a car on a par with his rivals and has to actually fight other drivers and make the overtaking moves, I'll concede he's the best. At the moment I believe he'd do not better than Alonso, Kimi, Grosjean and Hamilton if he was in their cars.
Way way too much hype over him. He has had the best car for 4 years, I really hope he doesn't next year. THEN we'll find out how good he really is.
Way way too much hype over him. He has had the best car for 4 years, I really hope he doesn't next year. THEN we'll find out how good he really is.
Tricky Dicky
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I know nothing about cars - I assume he's pretty good but I'd like to see what he can do if they put him in a Marussia
The Wizard
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I respect Vettels DRIVING ability a lot but he definitely is favoured massively by Red Bull and has that spoilt brat attitude if he doesn't get his own way, no doubt he is a good driver but it's clear how much faster the Red Bull has been for the second half of the season than any other car. I think the people who think he's the best ever need to think - if you put Senna/Alondo/Hamilton in the same car, who would win? We'll probably never find out because spoilt Vettel gets his own way. Vettel has just been exceptionally lucky he chose Adrian Neweys team.
Bold Seagull
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Fangio always made sure he started a season in the best car. His 5 titles came with 5 different teams - he'd even change teams mid-season if it suited him.
We'll discover Vettel's true talent in the years to come. It's not his fault he's in the best car, but many drivers have had superior cars in the past, but not shown the absolute consistency and dominance Vettel is showing.
Lewis Hamilton had the fastest car in 2007, but although it was his first season, he and the team managed to balls it up from what seemed an unbeatable position. It's not as easy as it looks, even with superior equipment.
We'll discover Vettel's true talent in the years to come. It's not his fault he's in the best car, but many drivers have had superior cars in the past, but not shown the absolute consistency and dominance Vettel is showing.
Lewis Hamilton had the fastest car in 2007, but although it was his first season, he and the team managed to balls it up from what seemed an unbeatable position. It's not as easy as it looks, even with superior equipment.
