[Albion] VAR v Southampton

[Triggaaar]

I was talking to a Saints fan after the match, he was very agitated about the decision but still happy to have picked up a point. He said the one consolation was that the journey home was not too far and he was looking forwards to seeing his wife and sister.

”That’s nice“ I said “there will be two happy faces to greet you when you arrive home”

”No”, he replied “Just the one”.

We're on tenterhooks here, which was the happy face?

 

[Triggaaar]

I was at home, so watched the replays. The first part of the VAR check was to see if JPVH made contact when he swung his leg at the cross. That would’ve cancelled out any offside.

Even that shouldn't cancel the offside. Van Hecke was forced into trying to stop the ball by the player next to him who was offside.

Players in an offside position are flagged offside just for chasing a ball and making a defender play it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Even that shouldn't cancel the offside. Van Hecke was forced into trying to stop the ball by the player next to him who was offside.

Players in an offside position are flagged offside just for chasing a ball and making a defender play it.

I was trying to explain the length of time, which doesn't mean excusing it. We know that VAR is faulty when they draw the wrong lines, from experience.
As it happens this time, it confirmed what the ref and lino had decided. Martin knows this and was making excuses.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Ref watch confirmed what most of us already knew.

 

[rippleman]

I was rather surprised that VAR didn't look at their allowed goal.

It appeared to me that their number 9 pulled Pervis to the floor. He also had a sneaky look over his shoulder to ensure he had cleared a path for the goalscorer.

But we only have ourselves to blame for not picking up 3 points. By my reckoning that's 8 points dropped already this season from winning positions to shit teams (Forest, Ipswich, Wolves & Southampton).

We have got to learn how to beat the shit teams if we have aspirations of getting into the top 4.

 

[Reddleman]

I was rather surprised that VAR didn't look at their allowed goal.

It appeared to me that their number 9 pulled Pervis to the floor. He also had a sneaky look over his shoulder to ensure he had cleared a path for the goalscorer.

But we only have ourselves to blame for not picking up 3 points. By my reckoning that's 8 points dropped already this season from winning positions to shit teams (Forest, Ipswich, Wolves & Southampton).

We have got to learn how to beat the shit teams if we have aspirations of getting into the top 4.

We can’t have dropped points from a winning position against Ipswich, it finished 0-0.

We have also gained points from losing positions against Forest, Arsenal, Spurs and Manchester City. It’s all swings and roundabouts.

 

[seagull_si]

Sorry if already suggested, but a Simple rule change to say that if you are in the penalty area you are deemed to be interfering with play, so must stay onside at all times.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Sorry if already suggested, but a Simple rule change to say that if you are in the penalty area you are deemed to be interfering with play, so must stay onside at all times.

Wouldn't defending teams just have to stay outside the box to play opponents off?

 

[seagull_si]

Wouldn't defending teams just have to stay outside the box to play opponents off?

Sorry I don't understand. Maybe I phrased it wrong. What I mean is that if a player is in the penalty area they are deemed to be interfering with play so much remain onside. An attacker could still make a run from an onside position or me behind the ball when its played (like now).
I just kind of think that if you are in the area you are effecting the actions of the defenders and keeper, so attacking players should be deemed offside in that situation.
I 100% believe that Bart's position for the non goal was such as he had to cover a potential shot from Armstrong.

 

[Deadly Danson]

Ref watch confirmed what most of us already knew.

Yep and the obvious point was made that the ref and lino had already deemed he was interfering with play and was offside - there was no need for VAR to get involved other than a rubber stamp "agree with onfield call". Complete waste of everyone's time.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Yep and the obvious point was made that the ref and lino had already deemed he was interfering with play and was offside - there was no need for VAR to get involved other than a rubber stamp "agree with onfield call". Complete waste of everyone's time.

I think some of the time was spent chekcing to see if JPvH touched the ball.

 

[Triggaaar]

Howard Webb has said the goal should have stood. WTF is wrong with these people?

Bart is clearly looking at the Armstrong until the ball passes him. Offside is clearly the correct decision, and yet they're now saying it's incorrect