[Albion] Van Hecke or Webster?
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willalbion
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My point is he looked lost without Dunk. I’d already made it.
I like JPVH, I think he’s a talent, he had a bad game tonight.
Sirnormangall
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I felt that too. Shame after an almost faultless performance alongside Dunk at Old Trafford.
JPvH was awful tonight, like a few others, but he really struggled.
It doesn’t make him a bad player, just one that is still learning.
Webster would have been much better IMZo, either with JPvH or Julio, mainly because he communicates throughout, and defensively we looked in disarray.
It doesn’t make him a bad player, just one that is still learning.
Webster would have been much better IMZo, either with JPvH or Julio, mainly because he communicates throughout, and defensively we looked in disarray.
To be fair Webster was sold out vs West Ham, no Veltman and Milner who was dreadful. Webster was outstanding vs Wolves.
The common denominator (as well as Dunk) is Veltman.
mile oak
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- May 21, 2023
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The problem is since Colwell left we havnt got a back up good enough. If he or Dunk was out we were down to one and could struggle at times and when neither play we dont have the necessary quality. Without any doubt the CH pair cost us tonight. For me another Colwell quality CH is absolutely essential. Showed tonight. In attack we've plenty of quality options.
mile oak
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The problem is since Colwell left we havnt got a back up goid enough. If he or Dunk was out we were down to one and when neither play we dont have the necessary quality. For me another Colwell quality CH is absolutely essential. Showed tonight. In attack we've plenty of quality options
Nonsense. Webster played much more than colwill last season and was fine. He seems to have had one bad game and everyone has written him off.
HastingsSeagull
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For vast majority of games JPVH. For a first ever Euro game importantly with Dunk and Veltman missing and alongside a debutant known to be good on the ball……. Webster. Or Webster AND JPVH even if the other guy is good on the ball and should get lots of chances and minutes in a ‘standard game’. Or Webster and Veltman if fit!
P.S. Igor played ‘fine’.
P.S. Igor played ‘fine’.
This.
He really does get a hard time from some on here. Not that long ago he was being tipped for an England call up and now it seems he is not even good enough to be in the Albion squad.
more importantly, he can actually RUN - unlike 3/4 of that travesty of a defence we fielded last night.
His point was bleeding obvious
But I think Igor played very well, especially for a debut. The only criticism I'd make of Igor would be not sensing danger for the 3rd goal and getting back to cover.
I agree 100% Veltman should have started.
Seriously?
In general, his extreme lack of pace, is a big issue next to the lumbering JPVH- any ball over the top will have us on toast with these two playing together.
And specifically - the second goal is on him, dropping back early off the defensive line, and playing them all onside. The third goal he’s nowhere and gives up early, to point at others. And he could easily have seen red for the drag down, that saw him carded.
oh - and he missed a really simple headed chance in the first half
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The 3rd was on Lamptey imo, he got caught in two minds and made a bad decision. If he hadn’t have been drawn to the man who flicked it on and instead tracked the runner he could probably have dealt with the situation.
Really? So good to know that!His point was bleeding obvious
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If we’re playing with such immobile centre backs we have to either play a lot deeper or make sure both full backs are flying machines, Milner simply isn’t. Estupinan was clearly under orders to stay back to account for Igor’s shocking lack of pace.Seriously?
In general, his extreme lack of pace, is a big issue next to the lumbering JPVH- any ball over the top will have us on toast with these two playing together.
And specifically - the second goal is on him, dropping back early off the defensive line, and playing them all onside. The third goal he’s nowhere and gives up early, to point at others. And he could easily have seen red for the drag down, that saw him carded.
Agreed. He should also have taken off Fati and replaced him with a proper number 9 like Welbs far
Peak Webster is every bit as good as Dunk. Different qualities for sure, but when he's playing well he looks international class.
The problem with Webster is that he ALWAYS plays two or three utterly crap matches on his way back from a spell out of the team. Eventually he settles down and we remember how good he is. Unfortunately, in that West Ham game he took his expected crap performance to a new previously unseen level. I wonder if RDZ trusts him to get his form back?
It was, he mentioned his point, many people including myself last night said he was lost without Dunk, other central defenders have also looked lost without Dunk.Really? So good to know that!
I find people that say “and your point is?” are usually trying to sound smart.
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