Bus, train, bike, walk.
Nobody NEEDS to get in or out of that square mile by car, plenty choose to go through, and that's the problem.
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[Brighton] Valley Gardens works
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Nobody NEEDS to get in or out of that square mile by car, plenty choose to go through, and that's the problem.
wakeytom
New member
What about if that is where a car park is based? What about if something needs to be moved that is too heavy to realistically use any of the above?
I get the impression whatever I reply will lead to yet more 'what about', so I'll leave it after saying:-
Provide parking with good quality public transport links away from the most densely pedestrianized area of Brighton.
Have vehicle access at specific times.
wakeytom
New member
Not at all, I drive there to get to a car park which I use throughout the working day as do others. Not trying to be awkward it just wouldnt work
Just because it's what you've done, doesn't mean that's how things have to stay.
Obviously my initial response was somewhat glib but then again I have repeatedly said nothing will work in isolation, (just not that time).
It just seems so redundant to step out of the train station to a wall of cars, engines, fumes, and pedestrian crossings beeping.
Turn left into the Laines and still be dodging cars yet, unable to move in the pedestrian sections.
Much the same down at the seafront and around the clock tower.
Again this kind of upheaval doesn't just happen over night, and certainly not without full consideration of all road users.
The Large One
Who's Next?
Southern section of the Valley Gardens project now up for (further?) consultation...
https://www.brightonandhovenews.org...ate-new-square-under-preferred-design-option/
https://www.brightonandhovenews.org...ate-new-square-under-preferred-design-option/
Jack Straw
I look nothing like him!
Had a nose round this afternoon. Whole of St.Peter's Church back and front now effectively "gone". Pallets of paving bricks and other materials on the south section. A small strip of new kerbing has been put in place in the road outside the Richmond pub.
If you are driving north towards St.Peter's Church and need to turn right up Richmond Parade, you can't as that little bit of road is blocked off.
If you are driving north towards St.Peter's Church and need to turn right up Richmond Parade, you can't as that little bit of road is blocked off.
I find this quite hypnotic.
Again as part of our most recent transportation thread, I'm going to leave this here:-
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Again as part of our most recent transportation thread, I'm going to leave this here:-
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They've ruined Israels Plads
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studio150
Well-known member
This reminds me of my childhood when I used to line up all my matchbox and dinky vehicles in a long line, and move the front one about six inches and then move all those behind forward and then repeat and repeat and repeat... great fun
Jack Straw
I look nothing like him!
Jack Straw
I look nothing like him!
Freddie Goodwin.
Well-known member
It's always annoyed me the people who cut across the grass south of St Peter's and have worn a dirt path through it.
Bit of a drastic remedy though!
Bit of a drastic remedy though!
https://road.cc/content/news/250502-threefold-rise-cycling-cheltenham-town-centre-after-car-ban
A trial ban on cars, vans and lorries in several streets in the centre of Cheltenham resulted in a three-fold increase in the number of cyclist recorded passing one location in the Gloucestershire town, according to the local council.
Early results show a 206 per cent increase in the number of cyclists passing through the Boots Corner fountain area.
There was also an 84 per cent rise in pedestrian footfall and an 85 per cent reduction in the number of motor vehicles, says Cheltenham Borough Council.
The increases in numbers of people on foot or bike was said to be consistent across all days and all times sampled, and were calculated based on data collected before the trial began.
A trial ban on cars, vans and lorries in several streets in the centre of Cheltenham resulted in a three-fold increase in the number of cyclist recorded passing one location in the Gloucestershire town, according to the local council.
Early results show a 206 per cent increase in the number of cyclists passing through the Boots Corner fountain area.
There was also an 84 per cent rise in pedestrian footfall and an 85 per cent reduction in the number of motor vehicles, says Cheltenham Borough Council.
The increases in numbers of people on foot or bike was said to be consistent across all days and all times sampled, and were calculated based on data collected before the trial began.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
How does Brighton's population, road network etc compare to Cheltenham?
Does it matter?
I'm sure plenty of posters on NearlyWalesStandChat said:-
- It won't work here.
- I won't be able to go to work.
- Cheltenham is a tourist city.
- We need more roads not less.
- The businesses won't survive.
and all the other selfish bullshit that I'm challenging on this thread.
There isn't an obvious push back, on google, against this trial https://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/...am-transport-plan/phase-4-boots-corner-trial/
but I've only done a couple of searches.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Erm...I havent really read much of the thread so no idea about the 'selfish bullshit'....so having glanced at this mornings post saw yours and as you've used Cheltenham as a comparison I asked the question.....I hadn't realised it was going to provoke quite that reaction...I'll cycle off back to where I came from.
Erm...I havent really read much of the thread so no idea about the 'selfish bullshit'....so having glanced at this mornings post saw yours and as you've used Cheltenham as a comparison I asked the question.....I hadn't realised it was going to provoke quite that reaction...I'll cycle off back to where I came from.
Sorry that wasn't my intention, it wasn't meant to be read in the tone you used (but I can see why you used it
)The above reasons were given in this thread against the current changes being made to Valley Gardens, as well as a 'car free day' for Brighton and other general threads based around cars not actually being fit for purpose for urban life.