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[Albion] Valentín Barco **Season Loan To Sevilla 23/08/24**









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Aug 6, 2011
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TyC Sports article (link from BBC Transfer Gossip)

For those of you who are too busy or can't be arsed to get the article translated via Google:

Brighton made a new offer to Boca for Valentín Barco, who made the decision to leave.

The English team returned to the fray for Colo and put on the table the 10 million dollars that his termination clause costs. The player has the desire to emigrate at this moment and his hours at the club are numbered.

What all of Boca feared closed last season has just been confirmed in the first days of January 2024: Brighton returned to the fray for Valentín Barco and presented an offer for 10 million dollars, precisely the value of his termination clause, for 90% of your pass. Xeneize rejected the proposal, but the truth is that the player has decided to leave the club and, if they do not accept, he will leave due to the clause.

The Premier League team, which had already looked for Colo in the middle of the year but the negotiations had not prospered due to the refusal of the club and the player himself, who wanted to stay to play in the Copa Libertadores, is now determined to keep the little gem. of the Ribera as a whole and that is why in the last few hours he pressed the accelerator.

Why didn't you bid for the entire token? According to the information that TyC Sports was able to access, Brighton would leave the remaining 10% of the transfer to Boca for a future sale as a kind of gesture, taking into account that they would take it due to the clause.

As a preview of what finally came to fruition this Friday, in December Brighton leaders had already had a talk with those who represent the 19-year-old left-hander precisely to express their firm interest. The concrete thing is that this interest has already been transformed into a formal offer and Boca knows that Barco's hours, who at the time was also on Manchester City's radar, are numbered.
Who could replace Colo in the face of his probable departure? At Brandsen 805 they are in full negotiations with Unión to try to hire Kevin Zenón, a left-handed midfielder with good technique who they see as the ideal replacement for Barco. If he were thought of as a left back, a natural position but one in which he has not played for a long time, the Xeneize squad has Frank Fabra and Marcelo Saracchi as options.

Because Barco's clause in Boca is 10 million dollars and the added value.
Barco renewed his contract with Boca in February of this year until December 2024, after a long conflict between the parties in which the youth player was almost separated and played little for refusing to sign. Finally, after rejecting an offer from Getafe, he extended his contract but with a series of conditions, among which stood out maintaining a termination clause of 10 million dollars accessible to any team in Europe.
However, for the peace of mind of Xeneizes fans, Colo's contract has a protection mechanism. What does this mean? This means that if a club intends to execute the clause within 20 days prior to the closing of the transfer market (starting on Tuesday, January 9), it would automatically increase to 14 million. In this way, the La Ribera painting would receive 4 million more than the original value.

The plan that Riquelme had to try to retain Barco in Boca
Riquelme's strategy to continue counting on his main jewel for some time, something that now seems more than complicated, had to do with offering him one of the best contracts of the entire squad for this season. That idea, which is losing more and more strength, was to get together with Barco's representation to make this proposal and thus try to convince him to extend his relationship that ends in December 2024.

What would this also entail if it comes to fruition? It would go hand in hand with an increase in the clause, precisely to protect him from teams like Brighton taking him anyway without negotiation.
 


Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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Wouldn’t want this to turn into alternative Caicedo or Cucarella situation where his agents and social media are running the show. Wouldn’t be a good look and not bode well for the future.
Let the clubs sort behind the scenes.

If the agents or social media run the show on either of those transfers then Cucurella would have joined City for about £30 million and Caicedo would have gone to Arsenal in the January transfer window.

t's all noise and the club don't even listen to it. It's just designed to get those who fawn over the likes of Ramano clicking on the bait to swell the advertising revenue by a few cents a time.
 


Rookie

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Feb 8, 2005
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If the agents or social media run the show on either of those transfers then Cucurella would have joined City for about £30 million and Caicedo would have gone to Arsenal in the January transfer window.

t's all noise and the club don't even listen to it. It's just designed to get those who fawn over the likes of Ramano clicking on the bait to swell the advertising revenue by a few cents a time.
What I meant was the whole refusing to play and/or making it very difficult for the club. Can also include Trossard, L
 




saafend_seagull

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Jul 5, 2003
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I guess it means barco is done otherwise this is very bizarre given pervi can get injured at any moment.
 

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Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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It’s also possible he doesn’t see Barco as primarily a full back…
Indeed. He’s played (well) anywhere on the left flank in Argentina.

So like Pervis, we just have to deposit $10m in Colo’s bank account for him to then buy his own contract out and leave Boca. Hopefully this will be done today.
 


Whitechapel

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TyC Sports article (link from BBC Transfer Gossip)

For those of you who are too busy or can't be arsed to get the article translated via Google:

Brighton made a new offer to Boca for Valentín Barco, who made the decision to leave.

The English team returned to the fray for Colo and put on the table the 10 million dollars that his termination clause costs. The player has the desire to emigrate at this moment and his hours at the club are numbered.

What all of Boca feared closed last season has just been confirmed in the first days of January 2024: Brighton returned to the fray for Valentín Barco and presented an offer for 10 million dollars, precisely the value of his termination clause, for 90% of your pass. Xeneize rejected the proposal, but the truth is that the player has decided to leave the club and, if they do not accept, he will leave due to the clause.

The Premier League team, which had already looked for Colo in the middle of the year but the negotiations had not prospered due to the refusal of the club and the player himself, who wanted to stay to play in the Copa Libertadores, is now determined to keep the little gem. of the Ribera as a whole and that is why in the last few hours he pressed the accelerator.

Why didn't you bid for the entire token? According to the information that TyC Sports was able to access, Brighton would leave the remaining 10% of the transfer to Boca for a future sale as a kind of gesture, taking into account that they would take it due to the clause.

As a preview of what finally came to fruition this Friday, in December Brighton leaders had already had a talk with those who represent the 19-year-old left-hander precisely to express their firm interest. The concrete thing is that this interest has already been transformed into a formal offer and Boca knows that Barco's hours, who at the time was also on Manchester City's radar, are numbered.
Who could replace Colo in the face of his probable departure? At Brandsen 805 they are in full negotiations with Unión to try to hire Kevin Zenón, a left-handed midfielder with good technique who they see as the ideal replacement for Barco. If he were thought of as a left back, a natural position but one in which he has not played for a long time, the Xeneize squad has Frank Fabra and Marcelo Saracchi as options.

Because Barco's clause in Boca is 10 million dollars and the added value.
Barco renewed his contract with Boca in February of this year until December 2024, after a long conflict between the parties in which the youth player was almost separated and played little for refusing to sign. Finally, after rejecting an offer from Getafe, he extended his contract but with a series of conditions, among which stood out maintaining a termination clause of 10 million dollars accessible to any team in Europe.
However, for the peace of mind of Xeneizes fans, Colo's contract has a protection mechanism. What does this mean? This means that if a club intends to execute the clause within 20 days prior to the closing of the transfer market (starting on Tuesday, January 9), it would automatically increase to 14 million. In this way, the La Ribera painting would receive 4 million more than the original value.

The plan that Riquelme had to try to retain Barco in Boca
Riquelme's strategy to continue counting on his main jewel for some time, something that now seems more than complicated, had to do with offering him one of the best contracts of the entire squad for this season. That idea, which is losing more and more strength, was to get together with Barco's representation to make this proposal and thus try to convince him to extend his relationship that ends in December 2024.

What would this also entail if it comes to fruition? It would go hand in hand with an increase in the clause, precisely to protect him from teams like Brighton taking him anyway without negotiation.

Interestingly this makes it seem like we offered the full amount +10% of the future fee rather than just under the buyout clause.

I’m guessing as they had the ability to turn this offer down we’d staggered the payments slightly. Absolutely mental of them to turn that down then.

I get upper management not wanting to look like pushovers but all they’ve done is cost themselves a big payday in a couple of years. Very weird.
 




Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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What I meant was the whole refusing to play and/or making it very difficult for the club. Can also include Trossard, L

That's on the agent and the player though. Social media is just a way of reporting and discussing the news that the player is refusing to play. Those players may have tried to force moves by not playing/training but ultimately the club held strong and got the best deals possible.

it's incredibly unlikely to happen in this transfer though, the player is saying he doesn't want the release clause activated as he'd rather Boca get potentially more money with a traditional transfer deal. He seems to really value his time at Boca and nothing being reported makes him look like the sort that would rock the boat to force a move.
 


chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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That's on the agent and the player though. Social media is just a way of reporting and discussing the news that the player is refusing to play. Those players may have tried to force moves by not playing/training but ultimately the club held strong and got the best deals possible.

it's incredibly unlikely to happen in this transfer though, the player is saying he doesn't want the release clause activated as he'd rather Boca get potentially more money with a traditional transfer deal. He seems to really value his time at Boca and nothing being reported makes him look like the sort that would rock the boat to force a move.
All reports I’ve seen are that he wants a move in this window.. He only refused in the summer - after interest and a bid (I think) - because he wanted to stay and play in the Copa tournament.

Brian Owen confirmed he remains of “interest” to the Albion in the Argus this morning.
 


Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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TyC Sports article (link from BBC Transfer Gossip)

For those of you who are too busy or can't be arsed to get the article translated via Google:

Brighton made a new offer to Boca for Valentín Barco, who made the decision to leave.

The English team returned to the fray for Colo and put on the table the 10 million dollars that his termination clause costs. The player has the desire to emigrate at this moment and his hours at the club are numbered.

What all of Boca feared closed last season has just been confirmed in the first days of January 2024: Brighton returned to the fray for Valentín Barco and presented an offer for 10 million dollars, precisely the value of his termination clause, for 90% of your pass. Xeneize rejected the proposal, but the truth is that the player has decided to leave the club and, if they do not accept, he will leave due to the clause.

The Premier League team, which had already looked for Colo in the middle of the year but the negotiations had not prospered due to the refusal of the club and the player himself, who wanted to stay to play in the Copa Libertadores, is now determined to keep the little gem. of the Ribera as a whole and that is why in the last few hours he pressed the accelerator.

Why didn't you bid for the entire token? According to the information that TyC Sports was able to access, Brighton would leave the remaining 10% of the transfer to Boca for a future sale as a kind of gesture, taking into account that they would take it due to the clause.

As a preview of what finally came to fruition this Friday, in December Brighton leaders had already had a talk with those who represent the 19-year-old left-hander precisely to express their firm interest. The concrete thing is that this interest has already been transformed into a formal offer and Boca knows that Barco's hours, who at the time was also on Manchester City's radar, are numbered.
Who could replace Colo in the face of his probable departure? At Brandsen 805 they are in full negotiations with Unión to try to hire Kevin Zenón, a left-handed midfielder with good technique who they see as the ideal replacement for Barco. If he were thought of as a left back, a natural position but one in which he has not played for a long time, the Xeneize squad has Frank Fabra and Marcelo Saracchi as options.

Because Barco's clause in Boca is 10 million dollars and the added value.
Barco renewed his contract with Boca in February of this year until December 2024, after a long conflict between the parties in which the youth player was almost separated and played little for refusing to sign. Finally, after rejecting an offer from Getafe, he extended his contract but with a series of conditions, among which stood out maintaining a termination clause of 10 million dollars accessible to any team in Europe.
However, for the peace of mind of Xeneizes fans, Colo's contract has a protection mechanism. What does this mean? This means that if a club intends to execute the clause within 20 days prior to the closing of the transfer market (starting on Tuesday, January 9), it would automatically increase to 14 million. In this way, the La Ribera painting would receive 4 million more than the original value.

The plan that Riquelme had to try to retain Barco in Boca
Riquelme's strategy to continue counting on his main jewel for some time, something that now seems more than complicated, had to do with offering him one of the best contracts of the entire squad for this season. That idea, which is losing more and more strength, was to get together with Barco's representation to make this proposal and thus try to convince him to extend his relationship that ends in December 2024.

What would this also entail if it comes to fruition? It would go hand in hand with an increase in the clause, precisely to protect him from teams like Brighton taking him anyway without negotiation.
19 year old gem of a left hander, I'll let Sussex know.
 




Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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All reports I’ve seen are that he wants a move in this window.. He only refused in the summer - after interest and a bid (I think) - because he wanted to stay and play in the Copa tournament.

Brian Owen confirmed he remains of “interest” to the Albion in the Argus this morning.
Yes he wants the move in this window but he wants to do right by Boca too. He’s from Buenos Aires, probably grew up supporting Boca and has been with them since he was 9. It seems as though he wants them to get the best deal possible and doesn’t want to activate the release clause, that doesn’t strike me as someone who is likely to rock the boat.
 




Peppermint Tea

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Aug 31, 2007
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I spotted that too, but was disappointed that the article didn't specify if he was a batsman or a bowler.
Hopefully Valentin is an Argie all-rounder who can do a job at The County Ground.
Slow left arm. Bowled well in conjunction with Ramadhin Gonzalez for Belgrano CC.
 
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jellycat

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Oct 7, 2023
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If the player activated his release clause does that mean he would lose out on a signing on fee?
Same as when a player hands in a transfer request they lose out on some of the sale and the club receives all of the sale.
 






SeagullinExile

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Sep 10, 2010
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If the player activated his release clause does that mean he would lose out on a signing on fee?
Same as when a player hands in a transfer request they lose out on some of the sale and the club receives all of the sale.
I’m pretty sure that if a player requests a transfer then they lose any loyalty bonus they are due ??? Triggering his release clause may mean the player loses out in this case. But who knows :shrug:
 


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