[News] Use of pronouns……

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

No, it’s from Charles Dickens.
Yes, there is humour about old overweight men getting outraged and red in the face, but the definition is from the book Nicholas Nickelby.

The time had been, when this burst of enthusiasm would have been cheered to the very echo; but now, the deputation received it with chilling coldness. The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr. Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a 'gammon' tendency.

The meaning of that term—gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory

I rather like the idea of a hyperbolical gammon, eyes glistening etc.

 

[boik]

Self entitled? Pander?

The very definition of projection.

Self-entitled Panda? I'm sure I saw them at the Nashville in '78.

 

[vagabond]

No, it’s from Charles Dickens.
Yes, there is humour about old overweight men getting outraged and red in the face, but the definition is from the book Nicholas Nickelby.

The time had been, when this burst of enthusiasm would have been cheered to the very echo; but now, the deputation received it with chilling coldness. The general impression seemed to be, that as an explanation of Mr. Gregsbury’s political conduct, it did not enter quite enough into detail; and one gentleman in the rear did not scruple to remark aloud, that, for his purpose, it savoured rather too much of a 'gammon' tendency.

The meaning of that term—gammon,' said Mr. Gregsbury, 'is unknown to me. If it means that I grow a little too fervid, or perhaps even hyperbolical, in extolling my native land, I admit the full justice of the remark. I am proud of this free and happy country. My form dilates, my eye glistens, my breast heaves, my heart swells, my bosom burns, when I call to mind her greatness and her glory

It may have originated from Dickens TB, but the term itself is being used by those I suspect not clued in on its origin at all. I see “gammon” being used to describe or even denigrate those of a certain skin colour and age. Which is… racist, let’s call it what it is.

It doesn’t insult me, but I find it interesting that those fighting the noble causes of eradicating prejudice and hate speech are quite comfortable using this term.

 

[Hampster Gull]

So the question is how many of 'your sort' does it take before the rest of us have to think about your inclusion? It has to be one, doesn't it.

You’re all individuals. Yes, we are all individuals

 

[Napper]

Roll on the football season. This board is PC world since the euros ended

 

[vagabond]

I think it's meant to be a retaliation from the more left leaning Millennial snowflakes towards the right sided boomer gammons. I agree however, as a left leaning millennial snowflake, that gammon is a phrase i'm seeing a bit too much.

[emoji106]

 

[The Brighton Ace]

Can’t say I’ll lose any sleep about doing that. If it makes a few people feel more comfortable with absolutely zero effect on me then so be it.

This

 

[Bakero]

It may have originated from Dickens TB, but the term itself is being used by those I suspect not clued in on its origin at all. I see “gammon” being used to describe or even denigrate those of a certain skin colour and age. Which is… racist, let’s call it what it is.

It doesn’t insult me, but I find it interesting that those fighting the noble causes of eradicating prejudice and hate speech are quite comfortable using this term.

Come on, it's not denigrating people because of their skin colour. It's about personality and opinions. Although I don't use it myself, I can see why it's a useful shorthand. There are plenty of older, white blokes on here that you would not describe as gammon.

 

[vagabond]

Come on, it's not denigrating people because of their skin colour. It's about personality and opinions. Although I don't use it myself, I can see why it's a useful shorthand. There are plenty of older, white blokes on here that you would not describe as gammon.

Happy to stand corrected. It’s a term I’m learning about.

So it’s nothing to do with skin colour then?

 

[A1X]

Roll on the football season. This board is PC world since the euros ended

You call it "PC", I call it "manners".

 

[The Clamp]

And how exactly are LGBTTTQQIAA going to adapt to survive ?

They’re not. The world is adapting to them. And that’s what we call progress, dear boy. It’s how the human species got this far.

 

[carlzeiss]

They’re not. The world is adapting to them. And that’s what we call progress, dear boy. It’s how the human species got this far.

Does that mean that if non LBTTQQiAA's don't define their pronouns correctly their ability to reproduce will cease ?

 

[The Clamp]

Does that mean that if non LBTTQQiAA's don't define their pronouns correctly their ability to reproduce will cease ?

What on Earth are you going on about?

 

[carlzeiss]

What on Earth are you going on about?

darwin's theory of evolution

 

[The Clamp]

darwin's theory of evolution

What’s your point?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It may have originated from Dickens TB, but the term itself is being used by those I suspect not clued in on its origin at all. I see “gammon” being used to describe or even denigrate those of a certain skin colour and age. Which is… racist, let’s call it what it is.

It doesn’t insult me, but I find it interesting that those fighting the noble causes of eradicating prejudice and hate speech are quite comfortable using this term.

What skin colour and which race?

 

[carlzeiss]

What’s your point?

That neither correct or preferred pro nouns are relevant when determineing a species ability to survive

Quote Originally Posted by The Clamp View Post
The outrage at such small but meaningful efforts is merely the last howl of a dying attitude. The final throes of an outdated school of thought, no longer fit for purpose.
As Darwin said, those species with the ability to adapt, survive.
Adapt or perish.

 

[Live by the sea]

I have a friend who is transitioning, and i sometimes get the pronoun wrong as i have called them he for years. They know its by accident when it slips out, but it's when people don't try because they're too thick or ignorant that upsets them. How hard is it to call someone by what they want to be called? Is it okay if i walk up to you and call you something you dislike, calling you a **** or other derogatory terms, is it okay for me to say that to you just because its what i believe? Should it be okay for me to call a person of colour the N word? no, so sort yourselves out, take 20 seconds to change your ****ing email signature

Completely different argument, one is very insulting , the other is simply saying he or she based on what you would expect based on looks and physicality . It’s hardly the end of the world referring to someone who looks like a woman referring to her as she . If you occasionally make a mistake , correct it and move on . No need for everyone to change their e Mail signatures etc , talk about massive over kill .

 

[BadFish]

Roll on the football season. This board is PC world since the euros ended

A world made of PCs?

How would that work?

I've got nothing.

Sent from my M2010J19CG using Tapatalk

 

[The Clamp]

That neither correct or preferred pro nouns are relevant when determineing a species ability to survive

Quote Originally Posted by The Clamp View Post
The outrage at such small but meaningful efforts is merely the last howl of a dying attitude. The final throes of an outdated school of thought, no longer fit for purpose.
As Darwin said, those species with the ability to adapt, survive.
Adapt or perish.

Oh right. Very good.