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Marc1901

Peace out.
Apr 26, 2009
6,106
The Championship.
I think they should all receive the same: nothing, and be forced to get a job like normal people.

I'm currently on JSA ( going to probably get slated for it on here ) BUT I do voluntary work and doing various courses to gain qualifications and a good reference. Work is hard to find at the minute and even apprenticeships are even harder to get.
 




somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
If there are jobs that need doing people should get a living wage for doing them.
All very noble of course, until we all realise that the wage for these 'entry level' roles is reduced to minimum wage by the Eastern Europeans, who even at minimum wage are able to earn more than at home, and dont as a rule ( some exceptions of course), have a family and a household to support.
 


piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
And what if they can't get one? Do they starve? You can't "force" someone to get a job - you can only force an employer to give them one - if you have the political will, which our politicians haven't.

absolute nonsense, you can get a job if you really want one. If people are able bodied they should get a finite amount of benefit in their lifetime, end of.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
Have you ever taken a walk down Boundary Road? :jester:

OBVIOUSLY there are genuine cases for unemployment, sickness, disability, redundancy etc, but there are STACKS of low lives (half of my wife's family for a start) who are quite happy to sit on their arse and watch Jeremy Kyle while popping kids out, knowing that everything is paid for.

I don't doubt there are people like that but I'd question your phrase of "a fair proportion". As a regular user of Portslade station I see many people going into the job centre but I'm not stupid enough to judge them by the way they look. As someone who has been in that situation and who currently has a partner in that situation I get somewhat pissed off with the sweeping generalisations by f*** wits like PSB - please don't join his gang !
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
some chunts need to get some fuckin national pride going on .......starting with them goons wearing the 3 lions ...........you will be like banglafuckindesh in 10 years if you dont get off your arses and do something about it.
 




piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
I'm currently on JSA ( going to probably get slated for it on here ) BUT I do voluntary work and doing various courses to gain qualifications and a good reference. Work is hard to find at the minute and even apprenticeships are even harder to get.

you can become a self employed salesman. I did part time, so can you.
 


Worthingite

Sexy Pete... :D
Sep 16, 2011
4,965
Chesterfield
Nice. How about you attempt to put forward a constructive argument rather than resort to pathetic name-calling just because you don't agree with something?

Ok, I'll do that if you can put forward some form of cogent reasoning behind "I think they should all receive the same: nothing, and be forced to get a job like normal people"

While you do, take into account the people who CAN'T work through sickness, the people (such as my next door neighbour) who are over 50, have been made redundant, and have little to no chance of getting back into work due to their age, people who would do pretty much anything just to get back into work.

It's sweeping statements made by pricks such as yourself that make my f***ing blood boil.
 


Silk

New member
May 4, 2012
2,488
Uckfield
hospital cleaning/maintenance ,civic buildings in general.........maintaining railway thoroughfares , licking golf courses clean ,litter picking up of, clearing seaweed off the beach........you can say they should get a living wage , what do you call a living wage........i worked 40 hours a week on a yts when i left school for 25 quid a week ..is that a living wage ....??? and that was f***ing 25 years ago . i think your rent paid and 80 quid a week is more than fair, but that's just me.
Yes, it is just you.
 




Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,526
The arse end of Hangleton
I'm currently on JSA ( going to probably get slated for it on here ) BUT I do voluntary work and doing various courses to gain qualifications and a good reference. Work is hard to find at the minute and even apprenticeships are even harder to get.

Given you're not sitting on your backside and just waiting to sign on I'd suggest anyone slating you would be a complete wanker. Good luck with the job hunt.
 


Oct 25, 2003
23,964
Have you ever taken a walk down Boundary Road? :jester:

OBVIOUSLY there are genuine cases for unemployment, sickness, disability, redundancy etc, but there are STACKS of low lives (half of my wife's family for a start) who are quite happy to sit on their arse and watch Jeremy Kyle while popping kids out, knowing that everything is paid for.

yes but you were proposing that NO-ONE gets JSA........as pointed out above, there are a lot more unemployed people than there are jobs on offer.....are those who are actually looking for work supposed to starve to death?!
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
17,965
town full of eejits
I'm currently on JSA ( going to probably get slated for it on here ) BUT I do voluntary work and doing various courses to gain qualifications and a good reference. Work is hard to find at the minute and even apprenticeships are even harder to get.

why would you get slated..? good for you mate ....good luck with it.
 






Silk

New member
May 4, 2012
2,488
Uckfield
absolute nonsense, you can get a job if you really want one. If people are able bodied they should get a finite amount of benefit in their lifetime, end of.
You didn't read the post about number of jobs (400,00) versus number of unemployed (2.6 million) then, genius?
 






I'm currently on JSA ( going to probably get slated for it on here ) BUT I do voluntary work and doing various courses to gain qualifications and a good reference. Work is hard to find at the minute and even apprenticeships are even harder to get.

Fair play.

Perhaps my initial comment was a little sweeping, but the fact remains that this country allows people to take the piss. We're expecting our first child in October and because we both work we will get something like £20 a week Child Allowance. If we were on Job Seekers (that name's a joke, because it implies the recipient is actually looking for work), we would receive a free £500 grant in addition to all the other goodies such as increased benefits, milk vouchers etc.
 




piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
You didn't read the post about number of jobs (400,00) versus number of unemployed (2.6 million) then, genius?

i don't care about those stats, that just give cretins like you an excuse to be work shy. Go and generate you own jobs.
 








fork me

I have changed this
Oct 22, 2003
2,147
Gate 3, Limassol, Cyprus
that.

or at worst case ....work for dole , ie you get your rent paid and 80 quid a week as long as you are working at whatever you are asked to do , this has to be across the board however which brings us perilously close to communism doesn't it...??

If there's work to be done, people should be paid a wage for it. At the very least, minimum wage. Community work for dole money is just a form of slavery.
 


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