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banjo

GOSBTS
Oct 25, 2011
13,433
Deep south
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Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,983
Surrey
Calm, calm 'H'.

My point, albeit in a foreign language, was to point out that whoever, whenever runs the show, the noses are always rammed into the trough.

Don't get your best pair of cords into a twist.
Always? Have you got some evidence of Margaret Thatcher, Gordon Brown or John Major being linked to corruption on such an enormous scale?

This idea that "they're all the same" is dangerous because you are essentially giving carte blanche to the powers that be to do as they please, happily whitewashing it as "the same as everything that has happened before". It's simply not true. We have sleep walked into accepting the sort of appalling governance that wastes billions and billions of pounds on contracts for friends that doesn't deliver anything of any value, then pays for it by cutting £20 per week in allowances from society's most vulnerable, then tries to change the rules to see a Tory MP avoid being punished for breaking parliamentary rules over conflicts of interest. And then the crowning turd in the u bend, they baulk at changing the system so that MPs do what they're paid to do as a priority - complaining that it will affect the mental health of their MPs! It's probably worth repeating that they CUT the £20 a week allowance from the most vulnerable people in society. I don't recall their health (mental or otherwise) really being considered, do you?

I do wish the people with the worst political tunnel vision could accept from time to time that maybe it is worth looking elsewhere even in the short term for the sake of democracy. I say this because the people running the country now are undoubtedly the most corrupt, incompetent, and heartless people we've ever had in government. There isn't a single administration in the past 5 decades that comes anywhere close to being as truly terrible as this lot.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,887
Take it or leave it..........bumped into a friend yesterday whose brother-in-law was working in warehouses (I wont say where for fear of him possibly being identified) at the start of the pandemic.

At the time we were being told we had no PPE he was working in a warehouse stocked from floor to ceiling..............with PPE.

All the employees were ordered not to speak to the press or they would lose their jobs.

I'm not able to verify what i was told of course but it sounds about right doesn't it?
Playing devil's advocate but probably out of date and/or unusable.

And that's probably what they didn't want the press knowing.

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Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
They're ALL self-serving snorters, they all are. Since the year dot.

This is a bit like shouting ALL lives matter when someone says Black lives matter, or ALL footballers go down easy when Zaha falls over, it is said to try and minimise the issue at hand, or in defence of the individual under scrutiny.
It is weak and irrelevant, the point is right now, we have a bent as **** Goverment, and you don't seem to care, because they are your colour of bent politicians. It is sticking to your "team", whatever they do, that allows the ***** to keep doing it.
 


dadams2k11

ID10T Error
Jun 24, 2011
5,025
Brighton
This is a bit like shouting ALL lives matter when someone says Black lives matter, or ALL footballers go down easy when Zaha falls over, it is said to try and minimise the issue at hand, or in defence of the individual under scrutiny.
It is weak and irrelevant, the point is right now, we have a bent as **** Goverment, and you don't seem to care, because they are your colour of bent politicians. It is sticking to your "team", whatever they do, that allows the ***** to keep doing it.

Great post.
 




Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
10,497
I say this because the people running the country now are undoubtedly the most corrupt, incompetent, and heartless people we've ever had in government. There isn't a single administration in the past 5 decades that comes anywhere close to being as truly terrible as this lot.

I agree. My take on it is that is accepted in the HOC that to some degree you all 'play the game' as swimming against the tide is pointless. What I think we are seeing now is a recognition by the bulk of the blue team that the bungle**** and his protected spermgarglers are well beyond boundary testing territory.

Last week's debacle was either a deliberate try on to see it might work with the fall back of a 'we are the good guys after all because we realised the mistake', or it was genuine. Pretty disturbing stuff.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,240
West is BEST
I have to say, this time three months ago I’d lost all hope that Johnson and his band of b@stards would ever be called out. Im not over confident but I’m starting to see a few rays of light. The tide may be turning for this criminal government.
The most important question though; Have we left it too late?
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,605
Gods country fortnightly




dadams2k11

ID10T Error
Jun 24, 2011
5,025
Brighton
I have to say, this time three months ago I’d lost all hope that Johnson and his band of b@stards would ever be called out. Im not over confident but I’m starting to see a few rays of light. The tide may be turning for this criminal government.
The most important question though; Have we left it too late?

Pretty much the same for me.

I hope it's not too late, for my Grandkids if/when they exist, sake.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,240
West is BEST
Pretty much the same for me.

I hope it's not too late, for my Grandkids if/when they exist, sake.

Quite. This government’s biggest “legacy foul up” is obviously Brexit. Not the actual leaving, heck knows that debate has been served up for a few dinners in a row now, but their implementation of it. That’s gonna take a generation to unpick and put back together but whoever manages it will have a job for life.

But the bills, acts and adjustments they have passed makes it very easy for similar governments to take power and that urgently needs addressing and fixing. We cannot allow another government like this to sneak into power again. The U.K. wouldn’t survive it. We’ll be lucky to survive this one.
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,605
Gods country fortnightly




Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Hancock on Peston last night wanted me to either throw up or punch him in the face.
Absolute bare faced lying from start to finish as he already tries to get back into a ministerial role.
I dare any Tory voter on here to deny that this shower of shit are not the worst and incompetent bunch of lying Crooks for a very long time, in fact I cannot recall a worse bunch in my lifetime.
It is almost everyday and out of control.
The country is a joke led by a clown.
 


Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
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Since1982

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2006
1,622
Burgess Hill
Jess Philips reaction was superb last night, the utter disdain in which she held Hancock was wonderfully evident. Hancock, plus two other Tories backing this shocking govt on the show last night with just Phillips to counterbalance.
 




Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
Matt Hancock's pub landlord says he made 'zero profit' from £40m PPE deal

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/full-interview-with-matt-hancocks-pub-landlord/

Alex Bourne is the head of Hinpack Ltd., who manufactures pizza boxes had no previous experience of supplying PPE and in the previous year had a turnover of £250k

Interesting....

I think he had said previously that he made nothing "personally" from the contract, so far. The difference between taking a dividend and leaving the profits in the business perhaps, or maybe he really was just keen to help the nations need and supplied at cost to the distributor. It would be interesting seeing what markup the distributor placed on his products, he made it sound as though distributors made no money either.
It would be nice to find that there is no issue in this contract award and that in fact, all parties were just doing what they could to help, rather than doing all they could to make a quid.
What makes no sense to me though, is why Matt Hancock was making a VIP lane recommendation, if he really only knew this guy from a pub opening publicity event, and an email or text message offering Masks? And how that then may have assisted in being awarded a contract to provide vials?
 


GT49er

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 1, 2009
49,215
Gloucester
You will a contract with the assistance of referral by Matt Hancock worth £29m

You profit goes from 267k on t/o of £9.8m to £12.6m on t/o of £38m

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ENT-Hancock-recommended-29m-PPE-contract.html

Good deal for the taxpayer?

We need a public enquiry...

Inadmissible evidence - it's from the Daily Fail, so no true NSCers can possibly give it any credence, right? Surprised you even admit to having read it, let alone believe it, TBH ...............

Wouldn't even believe the Daily Fail if it said we drew away at West Ham, would we! :lolol:
 


rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
8,205
Inadmissible evidence - it's from the Daily Fail, so no true NSCers can possibly give it any credence, right? Surprised you even admit to having read it, let alone believe it, TBH ...............

Wouldn't even believe the Daily Fail if it said we drew away at West Ham, would we! :lolol:

you read the daily mail............. just a guess :lolol:
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,605
Gods country fortnightly
Inadmissible evidence - it's from the Daily Fail, so no true NSCers can possibly give it any credence, right? Surprised you even admit to having read it, let alone believe it, TBH ...............

Wouldn't even believe the Daily Fail if it said we drew away at West Ham, would we! :lolol:

Suspect we won't see a repeat of this stuff from the Fail now that Dacre is back.

4700% rise in profits to a company that had no background in supplying PPE, meanwhile numerous approved medical vendors could not get a call returned

£12.6m profit on £38m, that's profiteering from misery
 




Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,801
Fiveways
More coming out on this. And just before someone (else) mentions, it's this government and their party MPs that's doing this, just like they were voting to try and exonerate their mate, just like it's Tories that predominantly have second jobs (and, more particularly, second jobs that rake in consultancy fees abusing their position). It's not all politicians, in short, it's those in the governing party.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-awarded-before-formal-due-diligence-in-place
 


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