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UFO's, E.T's....



OSRGull

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Jan 20, 2011
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Watched a programme on catch up earlier, conspiracy theories- UFO's. Found it quite interesting.

So anyway, does anyone on here believe there is any life out side planet earth? Or are we the only ones here?
 




Bevendean Hillbilly

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Sep 4, 2006
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Just because something in the sky is unidentified doesn't mean it's a flying saucer from outer space.

I have 2 examples : I watched a circular silent large object travel at terrific speed across the summer evening sky last year...I was convicted it was something inexplicable...why? Because I hadn't seen one before.

I found out (after a lot of digging) that what I had actually seen was the international space station which was especially visible as it reflected the suns rays in an unusual way.

On the other hand, some years back, I was up before dawn to get to an early meeting and watched a star split into 5 tiny stars and speed off at perfect tangents across the whole horizon. I just stood in my dark kitchen with my gob hanging open.

That, my friends, was f***ing weird but not proof of ET.
 


BrianSwan

Active member
Apr 15, 2012
289
Of course there is life outside earth, anyone who thinks otherwise is a complete idiot, simply put.

 


OSRGull

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Jan 20, 2011
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It was quite interesting to watch!

It was 5 people going around America to different spots where there's been sightings, but the 5 people believed they'd had experiences with either E.T's or UFO's.
 


Brightonfan1983

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Jul 5, 2003
4,863
UK
Arthur C Clarke has a great line, words to the effect of: "If there is life on other planets, I would be amazed. If there isn't life on other planets, I would be amazed."
 




BrianSwan

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Apr 15, 2012
289
It was quite interesting to watch!

It was 5 people going around America to different spots where there's been sightings, but the 5 people believed they'd had experiences with either E.T's or UFO's.

Aliens visiting earth is another matter entirely though, I tend to believe we haven't been visited.
 


Brightonfan1983

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Jul 5, 2003
4,863
UK
Just because something in the sky is unidentified doesn't mean it's a flying saucer from outer space.

I have 2 examples : I watched a circular silent large object travel at terrific speed across the summer evening sky last year...I was convicted it was something inexplicable...why? Because I hadn't seen one before.

I found out (after a lot of digging) that what I had actually seen was the international space station which was especially visible as it reflected the suns rays in an unusual way.

On the other hand, some years back, I was up before dawn to get to an early meeting and watched a star split into 5 tiny stars and speed off at perfect tangents across the whole horizon. I just stood in my dark kitchen with my gob hanging open.

That, my friends, was f***ing weird but not proof of ET.

There was an excellent interview on the Today programme - it may still be on iTunes - with the head of air traffic control in Britain. I can't remember stats, but he said that though there are currently a small number of unexplained ATC events, the absolute vast majority are explained a few years after the event. The tiny amount of those not explained remain, well, unexplained.
 


BrianSwan

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Apr 15, 2012
289
The universe may be incomprehensibly big, but anyone who thinks that because of its size that life is inevitable elsewhere hasn't give enough thought into what life actually is, simply put.

Life can flourish in the harshest of places such as deep in oceans next to volcanoes, where did life on earth come from? Probably asteroids
 




pastafarian

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Sep 4, 2011
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25 years ago myself and a friend saw something in the sky which acted incredibly oddly and gave us the freaky heebee jeebies. needless to say its not something we talk about at parties
Aliens frequently visiting earth and abducting Americans and Mexicans.......probably not
Life on another planet.......i havnt yet had anyone explain to me with good reason why this is impossible
 


Muhammad - I’m hard - Bruce Lee

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Jul 25, 2005
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they already live among us :eek:

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BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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25 years ago myself and a friend saw something in the sky which acted incredibly oddly and gave us the freaky heebee jeebies. needless to say its not something we talk about at parties
Aliens frequently visiting earth and abducting Americans and Mexicans.......probably not
Life on another planet.......i havnt yet had anyone explain to me with good reason why this is impossible

I agree there is a huge leap from seeing weird shit in the sky to assuming it must be visiting aliens. I do think though that assumption that ours is the only planet hosting life in the whole universe is incredibly arrogant and left over from religion telling us we are 'special' and the chosen ones.

Discovery of life on other planets that as evloved as fat as or further than us is probably the only way that we will start working together as a planet though.
 




Muhammad - I’m hard - Bruce Lee

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Jul 25, 2005
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i bet WASPS exist on another planet, those bastards get everywhere
 




teaboy

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Jul 5, 2003
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The universe may be incomprehensibly big, but anyone who thinks that because of its size that life is inevitable elsewhere hasn't give enough thought into what life actually is, simply put.

I disagree. There are (conservative estimate) 100 billion galaxies, with around 100 billion stars in each. Some of these will have planets, and some of these will be able to support life at some point in their existance. Although it isn't 'inevitable' as you say, it's pretty likely that there will be life (as defined by NASA) somewhere in the universe at some point that isn't here on earth.
 




Bearing in mind the age of the earth and the fact that intelligent life has existed here for only a very tiny proportion of the time that the earth has been spinning - and the strong likelihood that life on earth will disappear in the next few million years, you have to ask the question as to whether there is any likelihood whatsoever that external contact with another life form would happen during the relatively small window of opportunity that exists for TWO civilisations (each of them equally fragile) to make contact with each other.
 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Bearing in mind the age of the earth and the fact that intelligent life has existed here for only a very tiny proportion of the time that the earth has been spinning - and the strong likelihood that life on earth will disappear in the next few million years, you have to ask the question as to whether there is any likelihood whatsoever that external contact with another life form would happen during the relatively small window of opportunity that exists for TWO civilisations (each of them equally fragile) to make contact with each other.

Plus throw in the almost insurmountable distance between galaxy's and solar systems and its pretty tricky. Mind you its probably for the best as we would probably kill each other on sight.
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,365
Worthing
I disagree. There are (conservative estimate) 100 billion galaxies, with around 100 billion stars in each. Some of these will have planets, and some of these will be able to support life at some point in their existance. Although it isn't 'inevitable' as you say, it's pretty likely that there will be life (as defined by NASA) somewhere in the universe at some point that isn't here on earth.

I think in terms of there being life out there, in my opinion it's pretty much certain. In the next 15 years I expect life or the remains of life to be found on Mars and one of the moons of Jupiter. If this comes to pass, it shows that life will find a way, in spite of the challenges.

Whether there is intelligent life out there, I'd say the odds are in favour of a yes to this; however, the size of the Universe, and the distances between stars means that we're highly unlikely to ever meet them (precluding some means of travel that bends the known physical laws).
 


Tricky Dicky

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Jul 27, 2004
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I think in terms of there being life out there, in my opinion it's pretty much certain. In the next 15 years I expect life or the remains of life to be found on Mars and one of the moons of Jupiter. If this comes to pass, it shows that life will find a way, in spite of the challenges.

Whether there is intelligent life out there, I'd say the odds are in favour of a yes to this; however, the size of the Universe, and the distances between stars means that we're highly unlikely to ever meet them (precluding some means of travel that bends the known physical laws).

Given how relatively quickly life established here, it's more than possible that it's quite easy to start, given the right conditions.
 






dingodan

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Feb 16, 2011
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It is certainly very easy to see something in the sky that looks unusual, and it not be an extraterrestrial space craft.

That said, there are very many sightings by trained observers, and some of them are unambiguously flying craft of some kind, under some kind of intelligent control.

What governments have tended to do over the years is allow the ordinary man to give his vague account of an anomaly in the sky unmolested, while at the same time imposing serious secrecy on sightings by military personnel, airline pilots and other trained observers.

I think that some of the best evidence we have comes from these kinds of sightings.

This is very interesting:

 


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