Two toddlers died of heat exhaustion when their fathers forgot they were strapped in

[London Calling]

My heart too, goes out to the people involved in this terrible accident, which is exactly why I felt the need to waste a part of my working day arguing against those seeking to demonise the poor parents.

Fair point. Sorry to br frivolous at times but not



Not a pointless thread,

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Nah, sorry, near IMPOSSIBLE to imagine any set of circumstances where you forgot your kids were strapped into the car you put them in. I mean, you just WOULDN'T. Unless you were mentally ill or something.

Or so wrapped up in your poxy job that it amounted to the same thing

 

[Rowdey]

But Somehow Said Baby Was Placed In The Back Seat?

By One Of The Parents.

Then Obviously Left Alone. So We Talking Of Being In A Public Place And Not Being Overseen At This Point.
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Sorry, but i think you are picking holes here - I can't get both our kids and kit in the car together at the very same time, so one has to get put in car (with other in house) lock the car, then shuttle back and forth with other kid and pram, and this, and that..

At times, i leave my kids un attended, in my house, and in my car or in my garden, or in the living room. There, i've said it. It's not ever long cause they won't let me, but sometimes it happens. Phew..i must repent, and give me a thousand lashes.

And while i'm here, the Maddie thing - there are loads of holidays abroad, catering for families, based and sold on leaving your kids in the room (locked..) and you going out for dinner and a drink with a monitor and/or staff member walking by every 10 or so minutes.
It happened all the time back in Butlins/Pontins when i was a baby, and i have good friends (Sensible, working/middle class, great parents )who have done the same abroad along with 30 other parents in the resort.

Some of the comments on here (inc back then) just seem to be a competition on who can be holier then tho and be the best most caring parent. We all are, aren't we?

But vere of the daily mail rightous path, and you deserve to be lose your child it seems..

 

[Juan Albion]

This thread is pointless, absolutely pointless. Actually worse than that, it's frivolous intellectual masturbation out of a terrible, terrible situation. I've read the story, it just makes me feel terrible and unhappy at the thought of it and my heart goes out to the parents and what the guy must have been feeling and is living with. In the spirit of those kids I find this thread pointless.

Well said.

These cases happen way too often. There was another one in Florida on Saturday and having dealt with quite a few brides now, I can see how this might have happened, although I don't suppose some of the pompus writers on this thread will want to do anything except condemn the mother:


Bride-to-be Mirlande Jean-Baptiste's wedding day turned to tragedy on Saturday when her 4-year-old son died in an SUV while she was in a salon preparing for her ceremony.

The mother, 29, may not have known her child was in the Ford Expedition, investigators said.

Jean-Baptiste's son was in the vehicle west of West Palm Beach for almost three hours on a morning that reached 89 degrees, investigators added.

She and her sister dropped some children off at a relative's house before 9 a.m. "Perhaps the child didn't get out or snuck back into the car," said Sgt. Pete Palenzuela of the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. "The mother is traumatized.

Jean-Baptiste was going to get married at 5:30 p.m. at Elected Church of God in Lake Worth. By 11:45 a.m., she was done at the U.S. Nails salon and off to get her hair done.

When she got back to her SUV in the parking lot in the 2600 block of South Military Trail she found the boy. She or her sister called 911 in panic. One of the women attempted CPR and paramedics did as well upon their arrival.

The boy was pronounced dead shortly after at Palms West Hospital in Loxahatchee. Jean-Baptiste had to be sedated at the hospital.

 

[Flavor Flav]

How could you forget that, conspicuous.

 

[JBizzleBeard]

Nah, sorry, near IMPOSSIBLE to imagine any set of circumstances where you forgot your kids were strapped into the car you put them in. I mean, you just WOULDN'T. Unless you were mentally ill or something.

Or so wrapped up in your poxy job that it amounted to the same thing

I agree mate.

Also people on here seem to forget this is a message forum where peoples opinions may actually be different from what THEY think.

End.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Don't be so precious. Nobody said you weren't allowed your opinion. In my personal view your opinion on this subject is wrong though, so it was countered.

 

[Monty]

I agree mate.

Also people on here seem to forget this is a message forum where peoples opinions may actually be different from what THEY think.

End.

Others forget that because its a message forum , you can disagree and sometimes argue. I think your contridicting yourself mate.

 

[vu1ture]

Others forget that because its a message forum , you can disagree and sometimes argue. I think your contridicting yourself mate.

Contradicting

 

[Monty]

i knew i should of changed that

 

[vu1ture]

i knew i should of changed that

Sorry for being petty.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

i knew i should of changed that

Should have changed that...

 

[London Calling]

Sorry, but i think you are picking holes here - I can't get both our kids and kit in the car together at the very same time, so one has to get put in car (with other in house) lock the car, then shuttle back and forth with other kid and pram, and this, and that..

At times, i leave my kids un attended, in my house, and in my car or in my garden, or in the living room. There, i've said it. It's not ever long cause they won't let me, but sometimes it happens. Phew..i must repent, and give me a thousand lashes.

And while i'm here, the Maddie thing - there are loads of holidays abroad, catering for families, based and sold on leaving your kids in the room (locked..) and you going out for dinner and a drink with a monitor and/or staff member walking by every 10 or so minutes.
It happened all the time back in Butlins/Pontins when i was a baby, and i have good friends (Sensible, working/middle class, great parents )who have done the same abroad along with 30 other parents in the resort.

Some of the comments on here (inc back then) just seem to be a competition on who can be holier then tho and be the best most caring parent. We all are, aren't we?

But vere of the daily mail rightous path, and you deserve to be lose your child it seems..

Well, I am obviously holier than thou!

How its going any way?

 

[Rowdey]

Awright Dave,
I'm not bad mate thanks - just had our 2nd boy 10 days ago - its a bit hectic - does the post reflect this..?!

How many you got now? I'm cutting my bollocks off ASAP - don't want any more after this one..

 

[Hannibal smith]

Here is a list of things that happened to me or close friends when I was a kid

(1) Left in a pram outside the library. When Dad returned home, he remembered he'd left his son outside the library although he did have a nice selection of books to read.
(2) I was left behind as a kid at the jubilee. My mum thought I was with dad and vice versa. I was eventually found by a neighbour trying to climb over a fence into a pond.
(3) Me and my sister were regularly left in the car with a bottle of coke each when mum and dad went for a drink in a pub which did not let children in. (We loved it)

All i'm highlighting is no-one (whatever they say on here) is a perfect parent and mistakes do happen. Luckily, most do not result in deaths or kidnapping but become amusing ancedotes. In the case of the French dad he is one of the serious unlucky ones.

 

[London Calling]

Awright Dave,
I'm not bad mate thanks - just had our 2nd boy 10 days ago - its a bit hectic - does the post reflect this..?!

How many you got now? I'm cutting my bollocks off ASAP - don't want any more after this one..

3

soon to 5, 3 and 1

We now sleep in different rooms to stop a Hackney birth explosion

It gets harder with two! Don't forget get thew photo's and video camera in, otherwise time will blur everything. And good luck

 

[London Calling]

Here is a list of things that happened to me or close friends when I was a kid

(1) Left in a pram outside the library. When Dad returned home, he remembered he'd left his son outside the library although he did have a nice selection of books to read.
(2) I was left behind as a kid at the jubilee. My mum thought I was with dad and vice versa. I was eventually found by a neighbour trying to climb over a fence into a pond.
(3) Me and my sister were regularly left in the car with a bottle of coke each when mum and dad went for a drink in a pub which did not let children in. (We loved it)

All i'm highlighting is no-one (whatever they say on here) is a perfect parent and mistakes do happen. Luckily, most do not result in deaths or kidnapping but become amusing ancedotes. In the case of the French dad he is one of the serious unlucky ones.

Now it be a line of .........................

I know my parents and everyone else used to leave prams and kids outside shops, how things have changed.

But b4 we had kids so 5-6 years ago we were in Copenhagen, whilst being their main city, it is still perceived safe enough to leave babies and toddlers outsider shops, uncared for.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

, uncared for.

Not uncared for - it is just that everyone else keeps their eye on them as I am sure you did. It is the old adage about children being brought up by the village - not just the parents.

 

[London Calling]

Not uncared for - it is just that everyone else keeps their eye on them as I am sure you did. It is the old adage about children being brought up by the village - not just the parents.

No!

WE nicked the pram for our little ones