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Two toddlers died of heat exhaustion when their fathers forgot they were strapped in
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countrygull
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I feel the name `McCann` will soon enter this conversation - though that was a case of wilful neglect of course.
Tooting Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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You seem to have a very limited experience of life. Do you think that these dads are likely to give a shit what you think, having just lost their precious kids? They haven't done it deliberately, it was a terrible accident and just very sad. Lives tragically lost, other lives ruined.
I'd like to think that was totally inconceivable, but if there was some confusion, the other parent had put the child in the car, or the child was asleep in a rear-facing child seat and making no noise, and you were preoccupied about something else...it's not impossible.
Have to agree with you on this.It's the parents duty to protect their siblings especially at that tender age.There's simply no excuse for it.
I'm surprised 'little Maddie' hasn't been brought into this too. Very, very different though. On THAT one, I suspect my views and Trojan Scold's views would be the same. THAT case really was avoidable.
Ohhhhh name calling good work fella
'Mr f***ing perfect?'. That's a great deal less offensive than suggesting these fathers are killers, which is what you're effectively saying.
Out of interest, do you have children?
Edit; just seen that you do, on another thread.
So these three kids of yours;
Never made a SINGLE mistake, bringing them up?
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countrygull
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100% in agreement. Although it takes some believing that you could forget your child is in the car, it is just possible - and the dads will never ever get over it. Having said that, nor will the McCann's, but their's must be a different type of guilt.
London Calling
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Using Tooting anaylsis
"I'd like to think that was totally inconceivable, but if there was some confusion, the other parent had put the child in the car, or the child was asleep in a rear-facing child seat and making no noise, and you were preoccupied about something else...it's not impossible.
But it must be a dysfunctional family or an area of neglect, if the parents had not finalise where the baby was, is and what would be happening to her!
Even just putting the baby into a car and leaving her alone - for how long - whilst parents swopped over, is neglecting.
Being rightious here, we have never left any of our children unattended, on their own in a vehicle but b4 I get queried on my last 5 years of actions.
We don't have a car, so only use taxi's and friends vehicles, so its not a daily occurence!
"I'd like to think that was totally inconceivable, but if there was some confusion, the other parent had put the child in the car, or the child was asleep in a rear-facing child seat and making no noise, and you were preoccupied about something else...it's not impossible.
But it must be a dysfunctional family or an area of neglect, if the parents had not finalise where the baby was, is and what would be happening to her!
Even just putting the baby into a car and leaving her alone - for how long - whilst parents swopped over, is neglecting.
Being rightious here, we have never left any of our children unattended, on their own in a vehicle but b4 I get queried on my last 5 years of actions.
We don't have a car, so only use taxi's and friends vehicles, so its not a daily occurence!
JBizzleBeard
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Thats what i'm tryin to say, but instead I am told I have no soul and I am being sarcastically called 'Mr Fuckin Perfect' etc etc. My heart DOES go out to these parents, but I still think this needn't have ever happened as it is a certain form of neglect.
JBizzleBeard
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I can honestly say I have never put my childrens lives in any danger ever.
And you think that this guy willfully DID?
Never driven a little bit tired? Never taken your eyes off the road for a moment? Never gone a little biy over the speed limit? Never gone a few weeks without checking the smoke alarms in your house?
Any of these would make you way more guilty than this guy's honest terrible mistake.
Lord Bracknell
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I don't know how old your children are.
But all parents find, sooner or later, that they have to trust their kids to their own devices. At first, this might mean no more than letting them walk, alone, down the street and round the corner to their friend's house.
But is there danger in that?
Possibly. Probably not. Who knows?
What I know is that NO parent can or should bring up children on the basis that they will "never put their children's lives in any danger ever". Sooner or later, you MUST. If you don't, you are depriving your kids of their RIGHT to learn how to be responsible for themselves.
Lady Bracknell
Handbag at Dawn
I don't think that either of my children were quiet enough to be overlooked. Ever!
Thomas, you are completely missing the point, which is that he didn't wilfully do that. If it were a case of this guy saying, 'My kid's asleep, and I just need to nip into the bookies to get a sneaky bet, on' then forgetting all about said kid, with tragic consequences, then yes, I'd be right with you and Trojan, in wanting this man strung up by his bollocks.
From what we have read though, that is patently NOT the case. He hasn't deliberately put his child in that situation, has he? He has had a mental abberation, a momentary lapse of memory [or really just didn't know] with terrible, terrible results.
To hark back to the example above. If someone were to crash their car whilst driving slightly over the speed limit, they would be MORE culpable than this man, in that they would have actively and wilfully increased the risk, by whatever tiny perecntage.
This man made a genuine mistake. It can happen.
Its a huge failing of modern society in my eyes, that blame must be apportioned in all circumstances, and nothing is ever allowed to be considered an accident anymore.