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[Brighton] Two Brighton & Hove Labour Cllrs Expelled!







Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
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How much changes in just 30 years. I took Political History as an O level, and can remember the school having mock elections in 64. Despite it being a grammar school, Labour won (following the 13 years of Tory misrule - nothing changes: and the slease of the Profumo affair) followed by the real election which returned Harold Wilson.
Indeed. In the 1970s politics was a big discussion point at school, not quite as big as football or music but we always discussed the issues of the day amongst ourselves and with our teachers. (I studied it in the Sixth Form in General Studies). Like you we had mock elections at GE time (1970 and two in 74). I took an active interest, I'd been on five or six demos (organised by the Young Liberals or Young Socialists) and even stood on a picket line (Chrysler, Coventry) before I'd left school.

Re the demos, we never did them in school time though! :) (See last weeks thread about schoolkids bunking off school for Palestine)

Sad that others didn't have that level of engagement in later years.

EDIT: We also had a debating society as well.
 




Pogue Mahone

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Apr 30, 2011
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And if politics was taught in school the teachers would be accused of being loony left, woke and pushing their communist agenda.
You think we’re not accused of this already?

(I know the answer to that question).

@Steve Foster, you seem to have disappeared again, after your scurrilous comments about Les Hamilton. What a thoroughly unpleasant individual you are.
 


WATFORD zero

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You think we’re not accused of this already?

(I know the answer to that question).

@Steve Foster, you seem to have disappeared again, after your scurrilous comments about Les Hamilton. What a thoroughly unpleasant individual you are.

He hasn't disappeared. As far as I can see, he's still visiting this thread a few times a day, most recently a couple of hours ago.

He just doesn't have the balls to actually explain his Les Hamilton remarks :shrug:
 




stewart12

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Jan 16, 2019
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And if politics was taught in school the teachers would be accused of being loony left, woke and pushing their communist agenda.
My Politics A-Level teacher was one of the prominent Lib Dem councillors who was spearheading the Lewes District Council assault on the Falmer Campaign
 


The Clamp

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He hasn't disappeared. As far as I can see, he's still visiting this thread a few times a day, most recently a couple of hours ago.

He just doesn't have the balls to actually explain his Les Hamilton remarks :shrug:

Never far from trouble is he.
 


aftershavedave

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Jul 9, 2003
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as 10cc say, not in hove
You think we’re not accused of this already?

(I know the answer to that question).

@Steve Foster, you seem to have disappeared again, after your scurrilous comments about Les Hamilton. What a thoroughly unpleasant individual you are.
I don't know and haven't heard of Les Hamilton, but it does seem that he's led a long life of service to the community in Brighton. Why he should be besmirched in the way he has simply adds to my view expressed earlier that Lyons is a particularly unsavoury character
 






Coalburner

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May 22, 2017
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if local councils and councillors returned to the 1950/60's when most stood as Ratepayers and long before national politics entered everyday services that ratepayers deserve. Divisive politics should have no place in local government services.
With you all the way on this one. Well said
 






medwayseagull reborn

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Oct 12, 2022
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I probably know Les Hamilton as well as anyone on here, although less so in recent times. He is one of the most diligent, conscientous and moral local politicians you would find anywhere. The scurrilous implication posted by the individual on here is beyond contempt and should be universally condemned. The late former Tory councillor Gary Petzer-Dunn would be horrified if he thought a member of his own party was behaving in this way.
 


Nobby

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Sep 29, 2007
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What else can we expect from a Conservative Party politician.
It's a real shame that there isn't a mechanism (outside of the normal election process), where an electorate can force a councillor out.
It's happening to Peter Bone in Wellingborough currently. My kids have voted - 10% needed to get a recall. ALthough there are only two places where you can cast your vote around there so it probably won't happen.
Shame if there isn't a process where Ivan \ Steve \ lesser human can be challenged?
 


aftershavedave

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Jul 9, 2003
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as 10cc say, not in hove
I probably know Les Hamilton as well as anyone on here, although less so in recent times. He is one of the most diligent, conscientous and moral local politicians you would find anywhere. The scurrilous implication posted by the individual on here is beyond contempt and should be universally condemned. The late former Tory councillor Gary Petzer-Dunn would be horrified if he thought a member of his own party was behaving in this way.
I'm sad to hear that Gary P-D is no longer with us, he was a neighbour when I lived in Hove. Your sentiments are shared
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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What else can we expect from a Conservative Party politician.
It's a real shame that there isn't a mechanism (outside of the normal election process), where an electorate can force a councillor out.
It's happening to Peter Bone in Wellingborough currently. My kids have voted - 10% needed to get a recall. ALthough there are only two places where you can cast your vote around there so it probably won't happen.
Shame if there isn't a process where Ivan \ Steve \ lesser human can be challenged?
There is a process for complaints, you can challenge the behavior of any councilor against the code of conduct:

Please find a link to the code of conduct for members:

https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/content/council-and-democracy/code-conduct-members
Please also see below a link to the complaints process for members should you wish to pursue this matter further:

https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/feedback-about-council-services/complaints-about-councillors

For more info email thomas.bald@brighton-hove.gov.uk
 


The Clamp

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There is a process for complaints, you can challenge the behavior of any councilor against the code of conduct:

Please find a link to the code of conduct for members:

https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/content/council-and-democracy/code-conduct-members
Please also see below a link to the complaints process for members should you wish to pursue this matter further:

https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/feedback-about-council-services/complaints-about-councillors

For more info email thomas.bald@brighton-hove.gov.uk

Is this the same guy that flounced off and demanded his post history be wiped?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Is this the same guy that flounced off and demanded his post history be wiped?
Thomas Bald? Thomas is the Democratic Services Officer
 








The Clamp

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Sorry, I’m not explaining myself at all well. Is Steve Forster another incarnation of the bloke who stormed off here and demanded all his posts be deleted so as not to embarrass him in his public life?

Obviously don’t answer if you don’t want to broach the topic.
 


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