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[Blue Valkyrie]

Isn’t that likely to happen again though despite the recent vote ? Mobilizing a majority will be tough and there isn’t much time to do it. Surely if they were going down this route they shouldn’t still be talking about it.

It needs 2/3rds in the Senate to boot him out. Not going to happen.

However, a 2nd impeachment is still possible.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Well tbf if you look at a higher level than joe bloggs on the street you'll find plenty of crossover and courting of Trump by leading Brexiters.

Farage
Banks
Wigmore
Kassam
Johnson

That’s 5 people. A lot more than that voted to leave the EU. It’s this kind of lack of respect for the arguments that people are fed up with. I’m sorry but associating a wish to leave the EU with the terrorists who tried to launch a coup at Capitol Hill is just an insult.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

I'm curious - he's already been impeached once, why will this second impeachment mean he can't run again? Is it due to what he is impeached for?

I think that is right - it does depend on what he is impeached for.

 

[Bakero]

That’s 5 people. A lot more than that voted to leave the EU. It’s this kind of lack of respect for the arguments that people are fed up with. I’m sorry but associating a wish to leave the EU with the terrorists who tried to launch a coup at Capitol Hill is just an insult.

Don't forget Spence.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

When you try to tar supporters of Brexit with the same brush as Trump supporters in the US. You have a whole thread here of pretty much uniform anti Trump sentiment and yet you try to sew division by seeking to ridicule those with whom you disagree about another issue. Muddying the waters, a typical Trump like approach to debate. As pointed out elsewhere the irony of your attitude is that it is your side that refused to accept a democratic outcome and created division in this country.

You're talking to a member of the NSC police force they still operate under the old Sus laws
Regards
DF

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Don't forget Spence.

That one was totally indoctrinated by his never revealed news sources.

To use his words - "Read Fake News, get Fake News".

 

[Bry Nylon]

So they finally drained the swamp and it was Donald lurking at the bottom of it all this time.

Who could have guessed that?

 

[Stat Brother]

I wonder if the genie can be put back in the bottle. I don’t think it can. Too many people have dismissed this ‘movement’ as just a few nutters, or are just unaware of them. Some on here say Trump doesn’t appeal to conservatives, but he does. It’s just a new kind of conservative. A weird brand that has very little connection with reality and happy to get into bed with anyone to further their cause. The Republican party seem to have embraced this fully, until yesterday maybe, but it’s probably too late. It’s a weird alliance of out right neo-nazis/racists, nationalists, conspiracy theorists, nutty Christians who will accept anything if they get a ban on abortion, the usual gun nuts, internet shit posters/incels and the very ****ing dumb. If anyone STILL claims to be a ‘normal, hardworking’ Trump voter after the shit show of the last month, sorry, your beyond help.

And there are people over here who are sympathetic to a Trumpian world view. Pay attention online and you see it everywhere. Lots of Brexit supporters embrace it, that March for Brexit amongst other things showed how they overlap. It’s no coincidence that the main whataboutists, apologists and outright fans of Trump right here on NSC are also very vocal brexiters. Regular voters look the other way but truth is they needed them to get it over the line.

Don't have overly high hopes that having Biden in charge will bring about some return to a nodding relationship with the truth, but here’s hoping.

Sarah Palin (as an aside why are all the wack-job racists so desirable )is talking of a new party for those of all the different creeds and religions who feel let down by The Republican Party.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

You're talking to a member of the NSC police force they still operate under the old Sus laws
Regards
DF

Unfortunately it is posters such as yourself that are used to discredit leaving the EU. Every time you come on here and defend the indefensible (eg Trump) it gives further opportunity for people to make wild generalizations about the motives of millions of people in voting to leave the EU. Perhaps you don’t realize that you are a pawn of the extreme element of the Remain side, but that is what you are. Thankfully I think the majority of us (maybe not on NSC) want to find common ground and respect each other’s opinions.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Unfortunately it is posters such as yourself that are used to discredit leaving the EU. Every time you come on here and defend the indefensible (eg Trump) it gives further opportunity for people to make wild generalizations about the motives of millions of people in voting to leave the EU. Perhaps you don’t realize that you are a pawn of the extreme element of the Remain side, but that is what you are. Thankfully I think the majority of us (maybe not on NSC) want to find common ground and respect each other’s opinions.

I'm not defending anyone , don't get caught in that trap
Regards
DF

 

[Bakero]

Unfortunately it is posters such as yourself that are used to discredit leaving the EU. Every time you come on here and defend the indefensible (eg Trump) it gives further opportunity for people to make wild generalizations about the motives of millions of people in voting to leave the EU. Perhaps you don’t realize that you are a pawn of the extreme element of the Remain side, but that is what you are. Thankfully I think the majority of us (maybe not on NSC) want to find common ground and respect each other’s opinions.

Not so much a pawn of Remain but an inconvenient truth for Brexiters. DR and his fellow travellers played a part in getting the win for Leave.

 

[knocky1]

Well tbf if you look at a higher level than joe bloggs on the street you'll find plenty of crossover and courting of Trump by leading Brexiters.

Farage
Banks
Wigmore
Kassam
Johnson

With Putin pulling the strings.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Well tbf if you look at a higher level than joe bloggs on the street you'll find plenty of crossover and courting of Trump by leading Brexiters.

Farage
Banks
Wigmore
Kassam
Johnson

Don’t forget Steve Bannon who is on bail with the FBI, the Elliots, Matthew & Sarah.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Unfortunately it is posters such as yourself that are used to discredit leaving the EU. Every time you come on here and defend the indefensible (eg Trump) it gives further opportunity for people to make wild generalizations about the motives of millions of people in voting to leave the EU. Perhaps you don’t realize that you are a pawn of the extreme element of the Remain side, but that is what you are. Thankfully I think the majority of us (maybe not on NSC) want to find common ground and respect each other’s opinions.

You are absolutely right - most want to find common ground.

Bad winners - like the fairy - are as much of a problem as bad losers.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Not so much a pawn of Remain but an inconvenient truth for Brexiters. DR and his fellow travellers played a part in getting the win for Leave.

It is not inconvenient at all. One man/woman one vote. It’s how democracy works and ppf is entitled to his vote. If you are attempting to make some votes worth less than others you are guilty of the same attitude to democracy as Trump. You don’t go through the votes after losing an election and decide which ones are worthwhile and you don’t project the attitudes of a section of the vote on to everybody who voted that way. It is actually quite arrogant and dismissive. America will have to move on from these anti democratic attitudes. Probably we do as well.

 

[Happy Exile]

That’s 5 people. A lot more than that voted to leave the EU. It’s this kind of lack of respect for the arguments that people are fed up with. I’m sorry but associating a wish to leave the EU with the terrorists who tried to launch a coup at Capitol Hill is just an insult.

He does say at the level above the average Joe in the street so it's not disrespecting the views of the millions who voted to leave to point out that the Leave campaign was led and most vocally supported by those who allied themselves with Trump - you can add Gove and Rees-Mogg to that list too, both fairly fawning of him. That's not saying all Brexit supporters think Trump is great, of course the majority despise him because they are rational fair minded people, but it's unavoidable fact that most of those who led the campaign were, and some cases still are, close to Trump.

 

[aolstudios]

Seems like the Police have turned up and told me what I can and can't say
Good night
Regards
DF

No one's stopping you. Just suggesting you find the courage to say what we all know you mean.
Sad little Nazi coward. We know what you are

 

[Klaas]

What twaddle. Support for Trump on NSC? Oh yeh - masses of it ............

There are a few extreme Brexit haters whose prejudices lead them to fantasise that somehow in their bigotted view Brexiteers are Trump supporters too - it probably reinforces and justifies in their own minds their entitled and arrogant contempt for people who don't agree with them. There is no comparison between the march for Brexit and Wednesday's disgusting events - one was a peaceful legitimate political rally; unlike Wednesday's it was not trying to overturn a democratic outcome it didn't like by use of force.

The only comparison between the Brexit process and Wednesday's Trump rally was baying mobs outside Parliament, marching up and down waving EU flags and trying to overturn a democratic outcome they didn't like by shouting at it. Anti-democratic protests in both cases. Fortunately the remainers' baying mob seeking to overturn democracy was less violent and aggressive than the loons in America, and didn't get people killed, although with Sir Bob Geldof in their midst they may well have been more potty-mouthed!

Knew as soon as I posted that you'd be all over it. It would help if you engaged with what I actually wrote though.

I didn't say there was 'masses' of support for Trump on nsc. In fact I've said in the past that the reason this stays out of the BP is because broadly we all agree, from left to right, on him. However, those who do support Trump, or who indulge in whataboutery are all prolific brexit supporters on here.*
I was talking about a new breed of conservatives, that has seemingly taken over the Republican party in the states and can be seen making inroads here, and seems to be prevalent amongst some brexit supporters.* As for the march for Brexit, (I should have said Brexit Betrayal march which was what I was thinking of), I said it showed how they overlapped. Trump flags were flown, neo-nazis were present, the same rhetoric was used. Not to mention some of the main architects of Brexit being such big Trump fans!* There are many connections.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

No one's stopping you. Just suggesting you find the courage to say what we all know you mean.
Sad little Nazi coward. We know what you are

Morning officer
Regards
DF

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Morning officer
Regards
DF

Kind of ironic coming from our resident nazi.


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