Trump

[Gwylan]

Farage's partner in the Brexit company is Tice who is Oakeshott's lover.

Neither of them leaked Darroch's thoughts to Oakeshott though as neither of them was a recipient of the ambassador's despatches.
The leaker is either a minister (or a ministerial adviser) or a senior civil servant. My money is on the former - cui bono? (as a certain ex-minister would say)

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

It'll be wonderful entertainment if the leaker is Boris himself.

I wonder if the scriptwriters have thought of that.

The next series Box Set could be great.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Neither of them leaked Darroch's thoughts to Oakeshott though as neither of them was a recipient of the ambassador's despatches.
The leaker is either a minister (or a ministerial adviser) or a senior civil servant. My money is on the former - cui bono? (as a certain ex-minister would say)

I agree but it explains the motive.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Didn't know that, couldn't make this sh1t up

Just to show that I'm not (making it up).

[tweet]1150780217109209091[/tweet]

 

[Mtoto]

Neither of them leaked Darroch's thoughts to Oakeshott though as neither of them was a recipient of the ambassador's despatches.
The leaker is either a minister (or a ministerial adviser) or a senior civil servant. My money is on the former - cui bono? (as a certain ex-minister would say)

No, but regardless of the identity of the leaker, it could also be significant who it was initially leaked to. It didn't necessarily just pop up in Oakeshott's inbox. If, say, someone was the original recipient of the leak, passed it on to IO & then, post-publication, sent out a tweet which some might see as a thinly-veiled application for Darroch's job, it's possible that the "c" word might start to apply. It could also apply simply if someone like Tice was aware of the leak before it was published.

Still, at least all concerned can be certain that Oakeshott would never, ever break the number one rule of journalism and turn in one of her contacts ...

 

[Gwylan]

Still, at least all concerned can be certain that Oakeshott would never, ever break the number one rule of journalism and turn in one of her contacts ...

..except that she's already done so

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/sund...e-fulfilled-her-moral-obligation-vicky-pryce/

 

[Thunder Bolt]

[tweet]1151146537751318534[/tweet]

 

[Theatre of Trees]

Didn't know that, couldn't make this sh1t up

From Arron Banks' own book, from left to right: Banks, Richard Tice, Isabel Oakeshott, Farage.

 

[carlzeiss]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ousted-uk-ambassador-leaked-us-intelligence

Ousted UK ambassador leaked US intelligence


by Tom Rogan
| July 15, 2019 04:10 PM


Leaked U.K. diplomatic cables critical of President Trump have led Britain’s ambassador, Sir Kim Darroch, to announce his departure from Washington earlier than expected. But the story is not yet concluded.

According to one current and one former U.S. government official speaking on the condition of anonymity, Darroch repeatedly leaked classified U.S. intelligence information, including highly classified information, to a journalist for a U.S.-based media outlet. The sources are confirmed by the reaction my related inquiries have received from other government officials.

These leaks are unrelated to the diplomatic cables which sparked Trump's anger and Darroch's departure.

Still, one source says that the U.S. government was so alarmed by Darroch's leaks that it launched an official investigation to find the source of the information. That source described the leaked intelligence as “very sensitive,” and suggested that exigent U.S. security concerns motivated the investigation. That source says that non-U.S. government derived records showed the ambassador and journalist exchanging messages on a continuing basis. The source emphasized that these communications were not derived from U.S. government actions.

A second source, a career government official, described the leaks as "unprecedented."

The Washington Examiner has been unable to confirm how long any investigation continued or whether it has since been suspended. But concern inside the U.S. government over the leaks was significant.

One of the sources said that the ambassador repeatedly transmitted highly classified U.S. originator-control intelligence information to the journalist. ORCON intelligence, as it's called in the intelligence world, is closely held and carefully distributed. At least some of this information was classified at the "Five Eyes" alliance classification level, meaning it was distributed by the U.S. only to Australia, Britain, Canada, and New Zealand. Some intelligence may also have been classified at the U.S.-U.K. only level. Such intelligence is transmitted only on the condition of established protocols and the assumption it will be closely held.

The implications here are thus significant for two reasons.

While there is no indication that Ambassador Darroch was targeted as an investigative subject, even if incidental to Darroch, any investigative attention toward a British ambassador will raise eyebrows. Five Eyes protocols prohibit intelligence monitoring of allies. While this rule is occasionally bent, its malleability is tempered by the need to sustain shared trust.

Conversely, were the ambassador of America’s closest ally found to have leaked highly classified U.S. intelligence, it would undercut the trusting relationship of the two closest allies.

Yet it must be said that this risk is not new.

While U.S. and Britain retain the closest and most successful intelligence relationship of any two nations (near-symbiotic between the U.S. National Security Agency and its British counterpart, Government Communications Headquarters), sensitive leaks in media have occurred repeatedly on both sides of the Atlantic.

Following the May 2017 suicide bombing of a concert in Manchester, England, U.S. media leaks of British intelligence led Britain to temporarily suspend the sharing of certain intelligence material with the U.S. government. At the time, Trump described those leaks as "deeply troubling" and said that Prime Minister Theresa May was "very angry." In 2006, British intelligence officials were similarly enraged by U.S. action against al Qaeda operations officer Rashid Rauf at the culmination of an investigation into a plot against a transatlantic passenger aircraft departing Britain.

Still, for both nations, there is perhaps some solace here. Darroch has announced he will leave his post once a successor is appointed.

The White House and Justice Department declined to comment. As of publication the British Embassy did not respond to a request for comment.

 

[Bladders]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ousted-uk-ambassador-leaked-us-intelligence

Ousted UK ambassador leaked US intelligence


by Tom Rogan
| July 15, 2019 04:10 PM


Leaked U.K. diplomatic cables critical of President Trump have led Britain’s ambassador, Sir Kim Darroch, to announce his departure from Washington earlier than expected. But the story is not yet concluded.

According to one current and one former U.S. government official speaking on the condition of anonymity, Darroch repeatedly leaked classified U.S. intelligence information, including highly classified information, to a journalist for a U.S.-based media outlet. The sources are confirmed by the reaction my related inquiries have received from other government officials.

These leaks are unrelated to the diplomatic cables which sparked Trump's anger and Darroch's departure.

Still, one source says that the U.S. government was so alarmed by Darroch's leaks that it launched an official investigation to find the source of the information. That source described the leaked intelligence as “very sensitive,” and suggested that exigent U.S. security concerns motivated the investigation. That source says that non-U.S. government derived records showed the ambassador and journalist exchanging messages on a continuing basis. The source emphasized that these communications were not derived from U.S. government actions.

A second source, a career government official, described the leaks as "unprecedented."

The Washington Examiner has been unable to confirm how long any investigation continued or whether it has since been suspended. But concern inside the U.S. government over the leaks was significant.

One of the sources said that the ambassador repeatedly transmitted highly classified U.S. originator-control intelligence information to the journalist. ORCON intelligence, as it's called in the intelligence world, is closely held and carefully distributed. At least some of this information was classified at the "Five Eyes" alliance classification level, meaning it was distributed by the U.S. only to Australia, Britain, Canada, and New Zealand. Some intelligence may also have been classified at the U.S.-U.K. only level. Such intelligence is transmitted only on the condition of established protocols and the assumption it will be closely held.

The implications here are thus significant for two reasons.

While there is no indication that Ambassador Darroch was targeted as an investigative subject, even if incidental to Darroch, any investigative attention toward a British ambassador will raise eyebrows. Five Eyes protocols prohibit intelligence monitoring of allies. While this rule is occasionally bent, its malleability is tempered by the need to sustain shared trust.

Conversely, were the ambassador of America’s closest ally found to have leaked highly classified U.S. intelligence, it would undercut the trusting relationship of the two closest allies.

Yet it must be said that this risk is not new.

While U.S. and Britain retain the closest and most successful intelligence relationship of any two nations (near-symbiotic between the U.S. National Security Agency and its British counterpart, Government Communications Headquarters), sensitive leaks in media have occurred repeatedly on both sides of the Atlantic.

Following the May 2017 suicide bombing of a concert in Manchester, England, U.S. media leaks of British intelligence led Britain to temporarily suspend the sharing of certain intelligence material with the U.S. government. At the time, Trump described those leaks as "deeply troubling" and said that Prime Minister Theresa May was "very angry." In 2006, British intelligence officials were similarly enraged by U.S. action against al Qaeda operations officer Rashid Rauf at the culmination of an investigation into a plot against a transatlantic passenger aircraft departing Britain.

Still, for both nations, there is perhaps some solace here. Darroch has announced he will leave his post once a successor is appointed.

The White House and Justice Department declined to comment. As of publication the British Embassy did not respond to a request for comment.

Never trust a man called Kim with intelligence.

 

[knocky1]

A man with a racist head and racist heart but his bones are less full of hatred apparently.

 

[knocky1]

Just So.

 

[vegster]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ousted-uk-ambassador-leaked-us-intelligence

Ousted UK ambassador leaked US intelligence


by Tom Rogan
| July 15, 2019 04:10 PM


Leaked U.K. diplomatic cables critical of President Trump have led Britain’s ambassador, Sir Kim Darroch, to announce his departure from Washington earlier than expected. But the story is not yet concluded.

According to one current and one former U.S. government official speaking on the condition of anonymity, Darroch repeatedly leaked classified U.S. intelligence information, including highly classified information, to a journalist for a U.S.-based media outlet. The sources are confirmed by the reaction my related inquiries have received from other government officials.

These leaks are unrelated to the diplomatic cables which sparked Trump's anger and Darroch's departure.

Still, one source says that the U.S. government was so alarmed by Darroch's leaks that it launched an official investigation to find the source of the information. That source described the leaked intelligence as “very sensitive,” and suggested that exigent U.S. security concerns motivated the investigation. That source says that non-U.S. government derived records showed the ambassador and journalist exchanging messages on a continuing basis. The source emphasized that these communications were not derived from U.S. government actions.

A second source, a career government official, described the leaks as "unprecedented."

The Washington Examiner has been unable to confirm how long any investigation continued or whether it has since been suspended. But concern inside the U.S. government over the leaks was significant.

One of the sources said that the ambassador repeatedly transmitted highly classified U.S. originator-control intelligence information to the journalist. ORCON intelligence, as it's called in the intelligence world, is closely held and carefully distributed. At least some of this information was classified at the "Five Eyes" alliance classification level, meaning it was distributed by the U.S. only to Australia, Britain, Canada, and New Zealand. Some intelligence may also have been classified at the U.S.-U.K. only level. Such intelligence is transmitted only on the condition of established protocols and the assumption it will be closely held.

The implications here are thus significant for two reasons.

While there is no indication that Ambassador Darroch was targeted as an investigative subject, even if incidental to Darroch, any investigative attention toward a British ambassador will raise eyebrows. Five Eyes protocols prohibit intelligence monitoring of allies. While this rule is occasionally bent, its malleability is tempered by the need to sustain shared trust.

Conversely, were the ambassador of America’s closest ally found to have leaked highly classified U.S. intelligence, it would undercut the trusting relationship of the two closest allies.

Yet it must be said that this risk is not new.

While U.S. and Britain retain the closest and most successful intelligence relationship of any two nations (near-symbiotic between the U.S. National Security Agency and its British counterpart, Government Communications Headquarters), sensitive leaks in media have occurred repeatedly on both sides of the Atlantic.

Following the May 2017 suicide bombing of a concert in Manchester, England, U.S. media leaks of British intelligence led Britain to temporarily suspend the sharing of certain intelligence material with the U.S. government. At the time, Trump described those leaks as "deeply troubling" and said that Prime Minister Theresa May was "very angry." In 2006, British intelligence officials were similarly enraged by U.S. action against al Qaeda operations officer Rashid Rauf at the culmination of an investigation into a plot against a transatlantic passenger aircraft departing Britain.

Still, for both nations, there is perhaps some solace here. Darroch has announced he will leave his post once a successor is appointed.

The White House and Justice Department declined to comment. As of publication the British Embassy did not respond to a request for comment.

Doesn't it strike you as odd that a career diplomat would A, be given classified information and B, then leak it to the media despite a career built on trust and responsibility ? I would have thought that any important classified material and information would have been exchanged directly between US and UK security services on a need to know basis, seems odd to put a diplomat in the loop ?


Also seems rather convenient that this has fallen out of the tree now ?

 

[Gwylan]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ousted-uk-ambassador-leaked-us-intelligence

Ousted UK ambassador leaked US intelligence


by Tom Rogan
| July 15, 2019 04:10 PM


Leaked U.K. diplomatic cables critical of President Trump have led Britain’s ambassador, Sir Kim Darroch, to announce his departure from Washington earlier than expected. But the story is not yet concluded.

According to one current and one former U.S. government official speaking on the condition of anonymity, Darroch repeatedly leaked classified U.S. intelligence information, including highly classified information, to a journalist for a U.S.-based media outlet. The sources are confirmed by the reaction my related inquiries have received from other government officials.

These leaks are unrelated to the diplomatic cables which sparked Trump's anger and Darroch's departure...

This would be a major, headline story but, four hours after publication, it's not mentioned by the BBC, Guardian, Mail, Telegraph. Sky or US papers like NYT or the Washington Post.

 

[knocky1]

Doesn't it strike you as odd that a career diplomat would A, be given classified information and B, then leak it to the media despite a career built on trust and responsibility ? I would have thought that any important classified material and information would have been exchanged directly between US and UK security services on a need to know basis, seems odd to put a diplomat in the loop ?


Also seems rather convenient that this has fallen out of the tree now ?

Same Trump media outlet that came up with the weird idea that Muslims were entering the US from Mexico. No evidence ever provided.
"Border rancher: 'We've found prayer rugs out here. It's unreal'."

 

[Garry Nelson's teacher]

A man with a racist head and racist heart but his bones are less full of hatred apparently.

A paradox easily explained: h's a bonehead.

 

[JCL666]

Trump is a bully but knows exactly what he is doing. Any attempt at dissension is met with force and lies by him. The ‘racist’ statement is a way of concentrating his base on the fear of a different America to the one he promises where whites rule supreme.
America has always been divided he’s just pushing it further apart.
CNN has a very thought provoking article today.
‘There's a sobering truth to Trump's racist tweets that we don't like to admit’

It's a very interesting article https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/15/us/trump-tweets-two-americas-blake/index.html

 

[Albion my Albion]

A paradox easily explained: h's a bonehead.

with a boner for a brain.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

On the basis the scores required to get into an Engineering degree are higher than that of Teachers.

Teaching is easier to get into than engineering.

In the U.K., and for secondary school, one typically does a regular degree, then a post-graduate teaching qualification. Which bit is easier to get into than your “engineering” degree? And what if the person wishes to become a maths or physics teacher and therefore does maths or physics? Still easier than your “engineering”?

This !!! And to add that 'teaching is easier to get into', if the measure is 'it easier to get a job in teaching' then that's because thousands of teachers leave every year due to stress and political interference so there's more vacancies. I guess that makes an engineering job easier !

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Trump successfully stops anyone talking about his connection to Epstein.

Top distracting, Donald !