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Stat Brother

Stat Brother

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Gotta admire the honesty - at last

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I don't think there are any 'landslide Biden' here but just in case, Trumpy said that on this tour of PA:-

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And I'll round up my twitter catch up with this:-

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and that

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PeterOut

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dingodan said:
To be fair, I have always acknowledged Trumps faults, there are many of them. What I have also done though is discriminated between political corruption and being an ********. I find political corruption to be worse, but it's fair enough if you disagree.

My main beef, which it always is on here, is that you have to hold everyone to the same standards. People who are anti Trump seem to have lost their minds (and their principles). Hate on Trump all you want, just don't become the equivilant of die hard Trump supporters or people who only watch FOX News, just on the other side. And that is EXACTLY what some of you have become. The left wing media have matched up with FOX, and everyone seems to think that those outlets are far closer to the centre than they really are now. And many of you have followed them. And sometimes I'm not even sure if those media outlets or you realize it. And I am aware you shouldn't start a sentence with and.

All of this is more than just about Trump vs Biden, it's a big cultural change, it has become a post-truth world, but that's not all down to Trump.
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I guess that if your real problem is with political corruption, wherever it comes from, then you are already very familiar with information such as at
https://prospect.org/mapping-corruption-interactive - and whatever you think of that particular source, there are many, many others that tell a similar tale.
 


dingodan

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BadFish said:
Biden - Alledged corruption and suspect moral compass & the look of a rather doddery old man who seems to be losing his faculties.

V

Trump - Alledged corruption and suspect moral compass & A bullying devisive oaf with a borderline personality disorder.

I know which one I would pick if my choice were limited to these two?
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Which one do you think will get more scrutiny?

Trump couldn't get away with cheating at Uno, every move he makes in crtiqued and watched like a hawk, because everyone hates him. Obama, everyone went home because "it's all good, it's Obama". I see I got a lot of sh*t for posting that Obama was a worse President than Trump. People only don't think Obama was that bad because all anyone ever focused on was that smile and wit. Well Obama's Presidency was rife with scandal, and he was one of the most internationally agressive Presidents in recent times too. Domestic spying on U.S. citizens continued and expanded. None of it got the attention it deserved, nor did it get the attention it would have got under Trump. That's one of the reasons I don't think a Trump Presidency is a bad situtation. He couldn't get away with the smallest transgression without being lept on. Good.
 


highflyer

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dingodan said:
Which one do you think will get more scrutiny?

Trump couldn't get away with cheating at Uno, every move he makes in crtiqued and watched like a hawk, because everyone hates him. Obama, everyone went home because "it's all good, it's Obama". I see I got a lot of sh*t for posting that Obama was a worse President than Trump. People only don't think Obama was that bad because all anyone ever focused on was that smile and wit. Well Obama's Presidency was rife with scandal, and he was one of the most internationally agressive Presidents in recent times too. Domestic spying on U.S. citizens continued and expanded. None of it got the attention it deserved, nor did it get the attention it would have got under Trump. That's one of the reasons I don't think a Trump Presidency is a bad situtation. He couldn't get away with the smallest transgression without being lept on. Good.
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So...your're saying that Trump is a VICTIM of unfair levels of scrutiny and that nobody ever questioned Obama?

F*ck me that's desperate stuff.
 


dingodan

dingodan

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highflyer said:
So...your're saying that Trump is a VICTIM of unfair levels of scrutiny and that nobody ever questioned Obama?

F*ck me that's desperate stuff.
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Not neccessarily unfair. Perhaps appropriate, all presidents should be watched closely. At times perhaps it has been over the top, but I'd rather that than the opposite.

Yes, basically nobody questioned Obama. Even now, how many Obama administration scandals can you name? There is nothing worse IMO than a charming President who people feel can do no wrong because "look at that smile".
 




Stat Brother

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Stato

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dingodan said:
Yes, basically nobody questioned Obama.
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Aah, you've given yourself away. I had been fooled into believing that you really thought all this stuff, but this one was too much of a stretch. Now its obvious that you're just trolling.

For those who don't get the joke, I'll just mention that no other president has ever suffered a Trumped-up (capital intentional) faux investigation into whether his birth qualified him to even be president.
 


dingodan

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Dick Knights Mumm said:
There is a possible reason. This really is desperate stuff. For that reason I am out.
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& the possible reasons is...that the Obama administration was scandal free right?

Even Joe Biden had the nerve to say that. "For Eight Years, There Wasn't One Single Hint of a Scandal or a Lie".

How about Benghazi and the subsequent coverup, Fast and Furious (ATF gunwalking scandal), Secret Service Colombia prostitution scandal and subsequent coverup, wiretapping of Associated Press reporters and editors, $1.6 billion payment to Iran, IRS political targeting, Snowden, VA scandal, Project Cassandra, "Flexibility" hot-mic moment with Dmitry Medvedev...
 






Change at Barnham

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If Biden wins the election but his inauguration isn't until January, who in the period between decides on which Covid policy the USA follows?
 








peterward

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Vote rigging already started. Yesterday there were moves to try and invalidate 100k votes in Texas (surprise surprise from a dominant democratic area) today reports loads being tossed out in South Carolina - the argument was that they didn't have a witness signature...... The elephant in the room was the guidance as many voted was that they didn't legally need a witness signature, the republicans have added that after many voted.

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Meanwhile Trump supporting thickets are campaigning outside the house of Trump attorney general puppet William Barr for not locking up Biden on the back of the no proof Giuliani/Russian agent/Tucker Carlson Hoax.

No really.

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A1X

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dingodan

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Looks to me like neither side are going to accept the election result if it doesn't go their way.

Could get ugly, let's hope not.
 




Stato

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dingodan said:
Looks to me like neither side are going to accept the election result if it doesn't go their way.

Could get ugly, let's hope not.
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Don't pretend that this is a problem on both sides. Only one person has refused to say that democracy is more important than him winning. Only one is talking openly about winning in the courts not by the ballot.
 


father_and_son

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dingodan said:
Looks to me like neither side are going to accept the election result if it doesn't go their way.

Could get ugly, let's hope not.
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When have the democrats claimed they won't accept the result?

Not seen anything from either the party or its followers to suggest they won't admit defeat... Unlike the other side (or one person in particular!)
 


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