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Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Which is exactly why the Yanks would be dumb to re-elect Trump. It is under Trump's watch that the US has become more divided than ever. He'll blame someone else, of course, he always does, but he is the president and he is the one that decided to inflame tensions to win votes.
If Trump wins then America is lost, perhaps forever.

Not worth worrying about it though as there is really nothing an individual can do about it anyway.
 




B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,722
Shoreham Beaaaach
Which is exactly why the Yanks would be dumb to re-elect Trump. It is under Trump's watch that the US has become more divided than ever. He'll blame someone else, of course, he always does, but he is the president and he is the one that decided to inflame tensions to win votes.

It takes 2 to have a conflict. It wasnt a Trump supporter that shot this bloke. Whilst I am no Trump supporter at all, I do think he is facing down a real socialistic Democratic Party that will stop at nothing (and that includes inciting and not stopping riots in their OWN cities) to get Trump toppled.Whatever the cost. Trump gets all the bad press, but the other side is just as bad, its not reported tho.
 




RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,509
Vacationland
It takes 2 to have a conflict. It wasnt a Trump supporter that shot this bloke. Whilst I am no Trump supporter at all, I do think he is facing down a real socialistic Democratic Party that will stop at nothing (and that includes inciting and not stopping riots in their OWN cities) to get Trump toppled.Whatever the cost. Trump gets all the bad press, but the other side is just as bad, its not reported tho.

The US Democratic Party is a 'real socialistic' party to the same extent, and in the same way, that MLS is a major national football league.
 


schmunk

Why oh why oh why?
Jan 19, 2018
10,346
Mid mid mid Sussex
The US Democratic Party is a 'real socialistic' party to the same extent, and in the same way, that MLS is a major national football league.

On most matters, the Dems are roughly akin to 'our' Tory party, and Republicans somewhat to the right of that.

Imagine Moggy being considered a moderate... SCENES
 




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Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,097
Faversham


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,097
Faversham
If Trump wins then America is lost, perhaps forever.

Not worth worrying about it though as there is really nothing an individual can do about it anyway.

I think you overestimate the permanence of the influence of a president. America is a conservative nation meaning that its values don't change much over time.

I also suspect that a good proportion of Americans don't see Trump as a jackass any more than they see the English as cultured and sophisticated.

America won't change if Trump wins any more than it changed with 8 years of that cultured and civilised chap, Obama, in the hot seat.

Perhaps the biggest threat to America in the long term is its seeming resistance to the influence of forces of change. Yet, perpaps that is its biggest strength. I'm still not sure which is correct.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,014
It takes 2 to have a conflict. It wasnt a Trump supporter that shot this bloke. Whilst I am no Trump supporter at all, I do think he is facing down a real socialistic Democratic Party that will stop at nothing (and that includes inciting and not stopping riots in their OWN cities) to get Trump toppled.Whatever the cost. Trump gets all the bad press, but the other side is just as bad, its not reported tho.

thats because Trump is inciting and doing nothing to ease tensions. as leader of the nation that is part of his job.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
It Can’t Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis 1935.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cant-Happen-Penguin-Modern-Classics/dp/0241310660

Written in the 1930’s Depression in America with Fascism rising around the world. Fascists take over the USA. Great fiction.

Looking more than fiction today with orange bungle****.

Worth a read for those that can.

They've been running it since 1914 when they finally got their private-owned central bank.

Later on, they even funded Germany in the second World War as described in great detail and with great sources in British author Anthony C Suttons book "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" (1976), available here:

http://reformation.org/wall-st-hitler.html

Not recommended for anti-conspiracy theorists as Sutton had obviously watched too many Youtube videos and listened too much to David Icke..
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,108
It Can’t Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis 1935.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cant-Happen-Penguin-Modern-Classics/dp/0241310660

Written in the 1930’s Depression in America with Fascism rising around the world. Fascists take over the USA. Great fiction.

Looking more than fiction today with orange bungle****.

Worth a read for those that can.

They've been running it since 1914 when they finally got their private-owned central bank.

Later on, they even funded Germany in the second World War as described in great detail and with great sources in British author Anthony C Suttons book "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" (1976), available here:

http://reformation.org/wall-st-hitler.html

Not recommended for anti-conspiracy theorists as Sutton had obviously watched too many Youtube videos and listened too much to David Icke..

Private investment in governments is not the same as political control. Duminic Cummings is working overtime to conceal that.
 




Lyndhurst 14

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2008
5,241
Whilst I am no Trump supporter at all, I do think he is facing down a real socialistic Democratic Party that will stop at nothing (and that includes inciting and not stopping riots in their OWN cities) to get Trump toppled.Whatever the cost. Trump gets all the bad press, but the other side is just as bad, its not reported tho.

It's ridiculous to call Biden a socialist. He's already said he doesn't back Medicare for All which Trump has called a Socialist bill. Trump knows how to press the buttons of a large part of the electorate and calling Biden a Socialist is a surefire winner. The American definition of Socialism and the rest of the World's are two different things
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,108
It's ridiculous to call Biden a socialist. He's already said he doesn't back Medicare for All which Trump has called a Socialist bill. Trump knows how to press the buttons of a large part of the electorate and calling Biden a Socialist is a surefire winner. The American definition of Socialism and the rest of the World's are two different things

Exactly. Kamala Harris is considered left for being pro choice by the NYTimes.
 


Bob'n'weave

Well-known member
Nov 18, 2016
1,972
Nr Lewes
As long as the Dems continue to encourage people to riot and find Trump supporters to kill, they don't stand much chance of being voted into power.

Why is this so difficult to understand?
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
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knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,108
As long as the Dems continue to encourage people to riot and find Trump supporters to kill, they don't stand much chance of being voted into power.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Bollocks. They’ve been hiding in basements and sporadicallly coming out in masks.
Meanwhile the White Supremacist President, when not in his bunker, stirs it up.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
As long as the Dems continue to encourage people to riot and find Trump supporters to kill, they don't stand much chance of being voted into power.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Interesting.

Biden was encouraging the opposite in the part of today's speech which they played on the radio. They must have edited out the bits you refer to.


Or maybe the above was on facebook ? I'm very glad I don't use it.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
If Trump wins then America is lost, perhaps forever.

Not worth worrying about it though as there is really nothing an individual can do about it anyway.
Civilisations and countries rise and fall, its the way of things. The Romans controlled much of ancient Europe and North Africa, now days Italy can't form a one party government. We ruled the world almost for 150 years or so then it all fell apart and the US took the lead in the world. Maybe their time is over.
 




Juan Albion

Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
As long as the Dems continue to encourage people to riot and find Trump supporters to kill, they don't stand much chance of being voted into power.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Why is it that posts that say "Why is this so difficult to understand?" are usually both overly simplistic and generally wrong?
 




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