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Bevendean Hillbilly

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Sep 4, 2006
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Nestling in green nowhere
A few weeks ago I attended the Oath ceremony which was the final step in my becoming an American Citizen. It was in downtown LA and there were 3,400 odd of us attending, making it the largest swearing in ceremony that has been held. There were over 120 countries represented and it was quite the event, all of us in one hall, with about 6,000 family members sat behind us as we went through the ceremony.

They cleverly timed the day to coincide with National Voter Registration Day and had all of us fill out the forms to be legible to vote, as you can not vote as a permanent resident or as a Green Card holder. During the ceremony they dim the lights and up on the screen came Mr Trump who then gave a speech for a few minutes going over what an honor of being a citizen is etc.

The crowd, which was very heavily Hispanic/South American, gave a very audible sigh, and a round of booing and laughter when he came up on the screen ensued. The response to Trump was very interesting, as the Hispanic immigrants have been in his sights for a while, and the crowds response, in my opinion is a great barometer of gauging where these people stand on him.

The conversations I had with those around me ( we were sat still for 3 hours )covered many areas, but mostly about why we were there. Of those around me, nearly everyone was becoming a citizen as they were scared of Trump and his deportation plans and mostly because they wanted to vote to make change.

If nothing else, Trumps actions and how is viewed here in the States, is making more people step up and do something about it. Without even realizing it, Trump is doing so much to rally his opposition voters just by being himself, he may ultimately be the Democrats best weapon in winning the next election.

A bit like East stand lower then?
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
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Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
Pfffffffft.

Would that be the same Jimmy Dore who insisted that Assad hadn't gassed his own people? He's really the quality of person you look to for the truth? Good grief.

So you didn't even watch it.

Even though it highlights the utter hypocrisy and corruption of the Democrats by using information from multiple sources not aligned to each other.

It's not the Republicans in bed with the Russians or Ukrainians, it's the Democrats.

Go on, post some bullshit from CNN or MSNBA to counter it. You rvapid contributions never add much to the conversation. For once add something solid to it.
 




Juan Albion

Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
So you didn't even watch it.

Even though it highlights the utter hypocrisy and corruption of the Democrats by using information from multiple sources not aligned to each other.

It's not the Republicans in bed with the Russians or Ukrainians, it's the Democrats.

Go on, post some bullshit from CNN or MSNBA to counter it. You rvapid contributions never add much to the conversation. For once add something solid to it.


I learned a long time ago not to bother to watch nonsense, especially nonsense posted from you, and for that you only have yourself to blame, since the sources you provide lack any degree of credibility. Jimmy Dore is an example of this. Why would anyone watch him?

And I also learned that getting into factual debates with Trump supporters is a waste of time as they don't deal with reality.
 




Tyrone Biggums

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Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
I learned a long time ago not to bother to watch nonsense, especially nonsense posted from you, and for that you only have yourself to blame, since the sources you provide lack any degree of credibility. Jimmy Dore is an example of this. Why would anyone watch him?

And I also learned that getting into factual debates with Trump supporters is a waste of time as they don't deal with reality.

Not you haven't learnt shit, let's be honest.

It's hilarious you think it's Jimmy Dore's research, that categorically proves you've never watched one single minute of those videos. All he does is provide a platform for high credentialed journalists to have their research presented and highlights others who aren't afraid to call out the political machines bullshit.

At least you've exposed yourself. What he reports actually comes from high quality journalists NOT just those pushing Republican and Democrat talking points.

The fact you're saying people like Dylan Ratigan, Aaron Mate, Abby Martin have no credibility show's what an utter fraud you are. They have no journalistic credibility?

Here's a few of the people you have say no credibility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylan_Ratigan

https://thegrayzone.com/author/aaron-mate/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abby_Martin

Reckon they might have a tad more credibility than you.
 






Fungus

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May 21, 2004
7,158
Truro
Ooh, he's gonna put a man on the face of the moon. And defeat Socialism. And "do the other things" , no doubt.
 


lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
2,201
Sin City
I learned a long time ago not to bother to watch nonsense, especially nonsense posted from you, and for that you only have yourself to blame, since the sources you provide lack any degree of credibility. Jimmy Dore is an example of this. Why would anyone watch him?

And I also learned that getting into factual debates with Trump supporters is a waste of time as they don't deal with reality.

It’s not nonsense though is it? You can’t dispute any of this with you’re own sources or else you would have. You think that you’re own blind hatred of Trump dismisses reality.

You can’t get into factual debates with Trump supporters because you have none. The truth is that the opposition is corrupt to the core.
 




Juan Albion

Chicken Sniffer 3rd Class
It’s not nonsense though is it? You can’t dispute any of this with you’re own sources or else you would have. You think that you’re own blind hatred of Trump dismisses reality.

You can’t get into factual debates with Trump supporters because you have none. The truth is that the opposition is corrupt to the core.

Yeah, sure, it's the normal people that are corrupt and making stuff up - of course, let's blame Deep State! I don't get into debates with Trump cultists because they have abandoned reality, given up on rational thinking, adopted lunatic conspiracy theories, refuted science, and will swallow any old guff he feeds them. It reminds me of watching a Benny Hinn healing ministry scam, people like you so desperate to believe. You can't have a decent debate with Trump cultists, they are too far gone. The man is a complete fool - Nambia, 18th century airports, Kurds on D-Day, my father was born in Germany, I'm a genius but I'll sue if anyone releases my school grades, Puerto Rico is an island surrounded by water etc., but you won't accept it. How much proof do you need?
 




Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,471
Mid Sussex
It’s not nonsense though is it? You can’t dispute any of this with you’re own sources or else you would have. You think that you’re own blind hatred of Trump dismisses reality.

You can’t get into factual debates with Trump supporters because you have none. The truth is that the opposition is corrupt to the core.

You wish. Trumpist spend hours trying to find ‘data’ proving he’s not a dickhead, whereas the rest just have to read one of his tweets or listen to him ranting in one of is speeches to know he is a weapons grade moron. He is condemn by his own words and deeds. Personally I can’t wait for his tax returns to see the light of day.

The fact that you try and defend this idiot speaks volumes about you ......




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W.C.

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Oct 31, 2011
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You wish. Trumpist spend hours trying to find ‘data’ proving he’s not a dickhead, whereas the rest just have to read one of his tweets or listen to him ranting in one of is speeches to know he is a weapons grade moron. He is condemn by his own words and deeds. Personally I can’t wait for his tax returns to see the light of day.

The fact that you try and defend this idiot speaks volumes about you ......




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This.
 




Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
4,613
Brighton

Yep, time to state again that Trump is a lying, racist, selfish, hateful, egotistical scumbag and if you defend or support him then you are too. This isn't a matter of which political side you are on, if you can't see how vile an individual he is then you need to be questioning yourself.
 


Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
Surely that's an " Alternate Truth " ?

Well it's coming from progressive or true Liberal journalists/commentators.

What other than the truth will they gain from exposing such information? A political system that's less influenced by corporations?

These aren't Republican supporters exposing people like Clinton and Biden.
 




Tyrone Biggums

Well-known member
Jun 25, 2006
13,498
Geelong, Australia
It’s not nonsense though is it? You can’t dispute any of this with you’re own sources or else you would have. You think that you’re own blind hatred of Trump dismisses reality.

You can’t get into factual debates with Trump supporters because you have none. The truth is that the opposition is corrupt to the core.

What they don't seem to get is Trump is too egotistical to actually hide anything, so you know every stupid thought he has. He's a million times more transparent than his Democrat counterparts.

Where as these utterly corrupt frauds like Pelosi, Biden, Warren etc all try to utterly deceive people by pushing one image in public and completely different things behind closed doors.

I mean the lead attorney for the whistle blower in the Ukraine case donated to Biden's campaign. So much dodgy shit going on.
 


lasvegan

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2009
2,201
Sin City
Yeah, sure, it's the normal people that are corrupt and making stuff up - of course, let's blame Deep State! I don't get into debates with Trump cultists because they have abandoned reality, given up on rational thinking, adopted lunatic conspiracy theories, refuted science, and will swallow any old guff he feeds them. It reminds me of watching a Benny Hinn healing ministry scam, people like you so desperate to believe. You can't have a decent debate with Trump cultists, they are too far gone. The man is a complete fool - Nambia, 18th century airports, Kurds on D-Day, my father was born in Germany, I'm a genius but I'll sue if anyone releases my school grades, Puerto Rico is an island surrounded by water etc., but you won't accept it. How much proof do you need?

You rather prove the point I was making. You totally disregard the corruption of the Clintons and Bidens etc. (the topic of conversation, as you seem to have already forgotten)), brand them as just “normal” then go into an inane rant about Trump “cultists” and Benny Hinn. I would say that you couldn’t have a decent debate with anybody.
 


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