nicko31
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Is this the penny drop moment that Trump is just completely out of control? There have been many moments, but surely now its time for moderate good people to give on Trump, he's just a wrong un...
O no it's so boring coming up against grammar Nazi's.Usually people do that when they have weak arguments as in your case.
Some recent tweets have The Donald starting to turn on Fox News.Is this the penny drop moment that Trump is just completely out of control? There have been many moments, but surely now its time for moderate good people to give on Trump, he's just a wrong un...
Some recent tweets have The Donald starting to turn on Fox News.
He'll turn on everyone before the end.Some recent tweets have The Donald starting to turn on Fox News.
it's not just republicans who want to back Haley, woof-woof.Many Republicans starting to think they'd be better off backing Nikki Haley, I don't agree with her politics but she is very good...
He was the choice of real Americans, though. This is why it's a GOP priority to increase the number of real Americans who go to the polls, and decrease the number of Them who get to vote.Not really. In a straight vote more people in the US didn't want him than did. To therefore suggest he's the choice of the American people is largely inaccurate,
The plus side is that watching the C's (Colbert, Cuomo, Cooper) and Jake Tapper slaughtering Trump sympathisers on a daily/weekly basis.
O no it's so boring coming up against grammar Nazi's.Usually people do that when they have weak arguments as in your case.
He was the choice of real Americans, though. This is why it's a GOP priority to increase the number of real Americans who go to the polls, and decrease the number of Them who get to vote.
Ive read that 5 times now and am still none the wiser.
A few weeks ago I attended the Oath ceremony which was the final step in my becoming an American Citizen. It was in downtown LA and there were 3,400 odd of us attending, making it the largest swearing in ceremony that has been held. There were over 120 countries represented and it was quite the event, all of us in one hall, with about 6,000 family members sat behind us as we went through the ceremony.
They cleverly timed the day to coincide with National Voter Registration Day and had all of us fill out the forms to be legible to vote, as you can not vote as a permanent resident or as a Green Card holder. During the ceremony they dim the lights and up on the screen came Mr Trump who then gave a speech for a few minutes going over what an honor of being a citizen is etc.
The crowd, which was very heavily Hispanic/South American, gave a very audible sigh, and a round of booing and laughter when he came up on the screen ensued. The response to Trump was very interesting, as the Hispanic immigrants have been in his sights for a while, and the crowds response, in my opinion is a great barometer of gauging where these people stand on him.
The conversations I had with those around me (we were sat still for 3 hours) covered many areas, but mostly about why we were there. Of those around me, nearly everyone was becoming a citizen as they were scared of Trump and his deportation plans and mostly because they wanted to vote to make change.
If nothing else, Trumps actions and how is viewed here in the States, is making more people step up and do something about it. Without even realizing it, Trump is doing so much to rally his opposition voters just by being himself, he may ultimately be the Democrats best weapon in winning the next election.
Ive read that 5 times now and am still none the wiser.
A few weeks ago I attended the Oath ceremony which was the final step in my becoming an American Citizen. It was in downtown LA and there were 3,400 odd of us attending, making it the largest swearing in ceremony that has been held. There were over 120 countries represented and it was quite the event, all of us in one hall, with about 6,000 family members sat behind us as we went through the ceremony.
They cleverly timed the day to coincide with National Voter Registration Day and had all of us fill out the forms to be legible to vote, as you can not vote as a permanent resident or as a Green Card holder. During the ceremony they dim the lights and up on the screen came Mr Trump who then gave a speech for a few minutes going over what an honor of being a citizen is etc.
The crowd, which was very heavily Hispanic/South American, gave a very audible sigh, and a round of booing and laughter when he came up on the screen ensued. The response to Trump was very interesting, as the Hispanic immigrants have been in his sights for a while, and the crowds response, in my opinion is a great barometer of gauging where these people stand on him.
The conversations I had with those around me (we were sat still for 3 hours) covered many areas, but mostly about why we were there. Of those around me, nearly everyone was becoming a citizen as they were scared of Trump and his deportation plans and mostly because they wanted to vote to make change.
If nothing else, Trumps actions and how is viewed here in the States, is making more people step up and do something about it. Without even realizing it, Trump is doing so much to rally his opposition voters just by being himself, he may ultimately be the Democrats best weapon in winning the next election.
Congratulations! As it happens, I had my interview on Monday and I am now waiting to hear when my ceremony is.
It is interesting what you say about people becoming citizens because they were scared about potential Trump deportation plans. I have been eligible to apply for citizenship for five years; there are a number of reasons why I decided to initiate the process this year but the potential future actions of this administration in regards to immigration were certainly part of that reasoning. If a middle-aged, white professional from England (who has legally resided in the States for 17 years) is thinking those thoughts, I think it tells you everything you need to know.
Congratulations! I've still got a ways to go for citizenship, in the process of getting my green card at the moment. Like you say, being at the Oath ceremony would be a useful barometer of the opinions of a very large cross section of American citizens to be.
Interesting what AZ Gull said about being eligible to apply for citizenship for 5 years - I know a few friends and work colleagues in a similar situation who had held back for a variety of reasons and are now seriously contemplating going for citizenship. Seeing the guy in the White House becoming more and more unhinged by the day ("my great and unmatched wisdom" - talk about deluded) probably nudged them in that direction.
Thank you bud, good luck with getting your status firmed up. Still looking for a time when we can get our North American Seagulls together for a beer or two and a good chat, it will take some serious stars to line up to get yourself, AZ Gull and myself in the same place at the same time....One day.