Transfers In - Calm down lads and lasses!

[GoingUp]

Another LICKER who needs to look at a calendar and see the season starts in less than 2 weeks, last minute dashing around doesn't work. We knew 3 months ago we needed a goalkeeper so what haven't we signed one yet ?

2 weeks?!?! We are fu*ked!!!

 

[Mannie]

I hope so, and I don't doubt that at all. I was just using it as an example really.

I have no doubt we will have a very strong squad come August 31st. I hope, but doubt we will have one by 9th August, and in the present climate, personally I have no problem with that. It's just how it is.

Agreed

 

[sahel]

Gus and Oscar both wanted to leave the club before they're season's ended due to the lack of they're transfer targets.

A football club is not run for the convenience of the managers who sign a contract and are paid a lot of money to carry out the policies of the board. I cant stand the arrogance suggested by this walking out because their budget is not big enough. It's ridiculous. Good riddance to both Poyet and Garcia if that was their motivation for going. The only criticism to be laid at the board is possibly not choosing the right person in the first place

 

[sparkie]

A football club is not run for the convenience of the managers who sign a contract and are paid a lot of money to carry out the policies of the board. I cant stand the arrogance suggested by this walking out because their budget is not big enough. It's ridiculous. Good riddance to both Poyet and Garcia if that was their motivation for going. The only criticism to be laid at the board is possibly not choosing the right person in the first place

That is a very good point.

 

[Grombleton]

managers like Oscar don't generally walk out on clubs like us halfway through the project

Isn't that exactly what Oscar did at Maccabi Tel-Aviv?

 

[Tubby-McFat-Fuc]

As for Oscar, when he rejoined Maccabi Tel Aviv one of their fans came on here and categorically stated when he left the Albion it was done without his old job being offered back to him, and that there was a clear time gap. Oscar himself said when he resigned that there was no other job imminent.

Are you really that naive?

 

[Dan Aitch]

Is anyone suggesting that Sami wasn't made aware of the club's stance on FFP before he joined, or suggesting that he was ill-prepared to manage within tight financial constraints and was expecting to be snowed-under by former premiership players clamouring to sign for us, and fighting for first-team football?

If you are suggesting these things then I would contend that you've got your head up your 4r5e and might not be giving Sami and the Board the respect they deserve.

I'm not of the opinion that the Board would take on an eminently qualified but inexperienced (in the grand scheme of things) manager without giving him the full lowdown. Why would they hide these things from him? So that he can get fed up and walk out? Doesn't seem likely to me... but then I'm as ill-informed as most other people on here and can only stand on the outside and look in. Of course we're getting a bit tense and of course we're fearful of the club sliding backwards... but we're not stuck in Cardiff's shoes and we're not anything like as likely to suffer ridicule as Leeds United. We have what appears to be a fully-committed set of Albion fans in charge and I for one don't want it any other way.

Let the FFP chips fall as they may and let's see how we all feel about the way the club is being run in another 12 months or so. Only then will we be better able to say whether current business practices were good, bad or just cautious. Whatever your perception of the outcome, there will be those who dissent.

Bring it on.

 

[HAILSHAM SEAGULL]

Is anyone suggesting that Sami wasn't made aware of the club's stance on FFP before he joined, or suggesting that he was ill-prepared to manage within tight financial constraints and was expecting to be snowed-under by former premiership players clamouring to sign for us, and fighting for first-team football?

If you are suggesting these things then I would contend that you've got your head up your 4r5e and might not be giving Sami and the Board the respect they deserve.

I'm not of the opinion that the Board would take on an eminently qualified but inexperienced (in the grand scheme of things) manager without giving him the full lowdown. Why would they hide these things from him? So that he can get fed up and walk out? Doesn't seem likely to me... but then I'm as ill-informed as most other people on here and can only stand on the outside and look in. Of course we're getting a bit tense and of course we're fearful of the club sliding backwards... but we're not stuck in Cardiff's shoes and we're not anything like as likely to suffer ridicule as Leeds United. We have what appears to be a fully-committed set of Albion fans in charge and I for one don't want it any other way.

Let the FFP chips fall as they may and let's see how we all feel about the way the club is being run in another 12 months or so. Only then will we be better able to say whether current business practices were good, bad or just cautious. Whatever your perception of the outcome, there will be those who dissent.

Bring it on.

How refreshing to read a sensible post on a Monday morning. Well said, I totally agree with every word in that post.

 

[Stumpy Tim]

Are you really that naive?

It's actually true.

 

[goldstone]

Good post by the OP. Let's assume that the club knows what it's doing and will get us the best players available at deals we can afford. Signing players for the sake of signing players is just plain stupid.

 

[Munchkin]

Is anyone suggesting that Sami wasn't made aware of the club's stance on FFP before he joined, or suggesting that he was ill-prepared to manage within tight financial constraints and was expecting to be snowed-under by former premiership players clamouring to sign for us, and fighting for first-team football?

If you are suggesting these things then I would contend that you've got your head up your 4r5e and might not be giving Sami and the Board the respect they deserve.

I'm not of the opinion that the Board would take on an eminently qualified but inexperienced (in the grand scheme of things) manager without giving him the full lowdown. Why would they hide these things from him? So that he can get fed up and walk out? Doesn't seem likely to me... but then I'm as ill-informed as most other people on here and can only stand on the outside and look in. Of course we're getting a bit tense and of course we're fearful of the club sliding backwards... but we're not stuck in Cardiff's shoes and we're not anything like as likely to suffer ridicule as Leeds United. We have what appears to be a fully-committed set of Albion fans in charge and I for one don't want it any other way.

Let the FFP chips fall as they may and let's see how we all feel about the way the club is being run in another 12 months or so. Only then will we be better able to say whether current business practices were good, bad or just cautious. Whatever your perception of the outcome, there will be those who dissent.

Bring it on.

Your common sense approach won't be appreciated by a large amount of posters on here.

 

[dadams2k11]

As for Oscar, when he rejoined Maccabi Tel Aviv one of their fans came on here and categorically stated when he left the Albion it was done without his old job being offered back to him, and that there was a clear time gap. Oscar himself said when he resigned that there was no other job imminent.

Really?

So you believe 1 fan categorically stating this? I can make up anything and post it on the internet. Does not make it true, tis rhubarb. Of course Oscar is not going to say he is leaving us to go back to Maccabi Tel Aviv. Its like saying players do not get tapped up before an offer is made for them.

 

[fat old seagull]

Your common sense approach won't be appreciated by a large amount of posters on here.

To be fair, I think a majority would support those views. Unfortunately the minority make a majority of the posts....whinging whilst never having made any purposeful input, financially or otherwise. Let them bask in their misery I say.

 

[blue'n'white]

Seriously there has been so much negative bullshit and bed wetting, even by NSC standards over the past few weeks regarding lack of signings, its staggering, even for us.

I get the feeling the club, and Burke in particular, cannot win with some of you. We could sign any number of players tomorrow if we choose to. We haven't because, like most other clubs, we want the best we can get.

Personally I am relaxed as I ever have been going into a season. I think this will be our year, I really do.

I don't think for one second we will have the squad in place for the opening game of season. But it will be by 1st September.

What would some of you prefer. To panic buy and pay over the odds?

For example we want Ward. So, should we have paid (I don't know the exact figures) say £14k a week for him a month ago, or hold out and get him for £10k a week or less. If we are giving him a three year deal, thats a huge difference. Clubs don't seem to be queuing up with huge wages for him to they! If it doesn't happen, I sure we have another left back lined up.

What makes this season even harder for the club, is its the first year FFP rules will come into effect and make a difference.

Agents by their nature will be holding out for the best price they can get, and before too much longer they will start to realise that they are not going to get the type of deals they could last time out, because clubs cannot much the old wages and stay within FFP rules.

Why do you think Kusczcak is without a club still?? This time last season he would have been snapped up within weeks. He's holding out for his old wage or close to it, and not getting anything.

So a club like the Albion who demand the best deals they can get will sit tight, and before much longer agents and players will start getting nervous and lower their demands in the fear of missing out.

The biggest problem for me (and as much as I detest Poyet I'm in full agreement with him here) the transfer window should shut before the season starts.

But it doesn't and I am completely as ease if the club do not make a signing until the last day of August.

Lets be honest, whoever got us £800k for 3 months worth of Ashley Barnes, and then got us £10m(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) for Ulloa, is pretty savey in the transfer market.

Lets all calm down, sit and wait, and stop trying to blame the wrong people.

Just remember, we could sign any number of players tomorrow. We choose not to, because we want the best available, and for that we will have to wait a little longer.

Why on earth come on here speaking sense - you just KNOW you'll get crucified/be accused of being "Barber in disguise" ?
Personally I agree entirely with your post. I can also certainly see a couple of season long loan signings coming in from the Premier League after their 25s have been named too.
It'll all turn out right in the end

 

[Bwian]

Are we that strapped for cash that we couldnt afford the wages of a keeper since June?

I can only imagine where we'd be now if you had anything to do with running the club. Playing in Southwick whilst the manager scours the rumours site looking to add players is my guess.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

To be fair, I think a majority would support those views. Unfortunately the minority make a majority of the posts....whinging whilst never having made any purposeful input, financially or otherwise. Let them bask in their misery I say.

Oh now that's a bit harsh,no? What's to say someone who has a very low paid job stretches their budget to buy a season ticket, surely you have to appreciate their financial input.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Are you really that naive?

We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see the need for the "head in hands", and I don't see why you start a thread berating the fact you've been "thumbs' down" whilst simultaneously thumbing down other posters who simply have alternative views to your own.

You demand facts on the one hand, and make huge unsubstantiated assumptions on the other - you have no proof Oscar left us directly to move back to Maccabi, but you can carry on thinking that as it clearly suits your agenda against the man you call Mr. Dull.

 

[somerset]

Same here

But I can't relax into those thoughts given that in August, five league games and a cup game will have potentially passed us by with limited return if you take recent performances into consideration.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Are you really that naive?

Since you're so keen on facts this is what actually happened:

12 May 14: Oscar leaves the Albion.

23 May 14: Oscar linked with Celtic: ‘For me it’s an honour to be linked to a club like Celtic. They are one of the best and biggest clubs in Europe, so it’s great to have interest. Nobody from the club has spoken directly to me and you would have to ask them why they might be interested.

‘But I know what I can do, what I can achieve, how I want to play, what philosophy I would bring to them. I grew up with the Barcelona philosophy and I would try to play attractive football.

‘I would be confident of taking them into the Champions League. The big objective of a club like Celtic must be to get into the group stages – and then to find the right way to be better, to improve and to see where Celtic can go.’

27 May 14: Ronny Deila resigns as manager of Stromsgodset as talks progress on him taking over as Celtic manager.

28 May 14: Paolo Sousa resigns as manager of Maccabi Tel Aviv to take up post at Basel.

03 Jun 14: Oscar rejoins Maccabi Tel Aviv.

Clearly, Maccabi was very much his Plan B, not Plan A.

 

[Tubby-McFat-Fuc]

We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see the need for the "head in hands", and I don't see why you start a thread berating the fact you've been "thumbs' down" whilst simultaneously thumbing down other posters who simply have alternative views to your own.

You demand facts on the one hand, and make huge unsubstantiated assumptions on the other - you have no proof Oscar left us directly to move back to Maccabi, but you can carry on thinking that as it clearly suits your agenda against the man you call Mr. Dull.

And that's why I thumbed you down.

I have not stated a "fact" why Oscar left or done after he left, its an opinion. You stated it was a "fact" why the last to managers left, not your opinion, but a fact, and thats why you got the thumbs down. If you want to state a fact, then show the proof. If its an opinion or assumption, then fair play.

As for me having an agenda against Mr Dull. WTF!! if someone has an opinion that isn't all happy an smiley about someone, why do people groan on that they have an agenda against. I think you read and copy too much of what people say on here mate. An agenda I have no agenda against Garica, I do think he was more of a one trick pony than Poyet, and is a bottler who wasn't up for a challenge. That's what I think, I haven't got an agenda against him Are people allowed an opinion without being accussed of having an agenda.