[Brighton] Tourist tax

[Notters]

Moscow will have had a right proper spruce-up for the World Cup though, I'm not convinced its always as spic and span as when you happened to be there. You'll have seen it at its very best, putting on its glad-rags for the world.

/QUOTE]

I’ve got a mate who recently lived there for 6 years who confirmed that, apart from the unusually relaxed nature of the policing, it was pretty much the same as ever. Litter is not in their nature. Street cleaning very much is.

Nothing to do with the fact that they don't usually have a relaxed police force?

 

[Tony Towner's Fridge]

It works well for most Cities in Europe... I think it is a great idea...only problem is that the idiotic Greens would fritter it away on nonsense...instead of keeping the City looking great, painted and presentable.


TNBA

TTF

 

[The Large One]

It works well for most Cities in Europe... I think it is a great idea...only problem is that the idiotic Greens would fritter it away on nonsense...instead of keeping the City looking great, painted and presentable.


TNBA

TTF

Jesus wept. Not exactly Mr Current Affairs are you?

 

[Westdene Seagull]

It works well for most Cities in Europe... I think it is a great idea...only problem is that the idiotic Greens would fritter it away on nonsense...instead of keeping the City looking great, painted and presentable.


TNBA

TTF

I'm no fan of the Greens ( worst administration we've ever had ) but thankfully they've been gone a while. Agreed they've dumped us with the i360 debt which will be around for years regardless of the colour of the administration.

 

[trueblue]

Nothing to do with the fact that they don't usually have a relaxed police force?

Yes. Probably is. I’m not suggesting we need a leader like Putin. Cracking people on a day to day basis though. Felt a lot safer than the UK generally at all hours.

 

[The Clamp]

Is there any good reason that we can’t have a tourist tax on accommodation in Brighton & Hove? A couple of quid a night, ring-fenced for street cleaning, (shit) graffiti removal, litter collection and education. The only obvious objection that strikes me is that it makes or hotels less competitively priced but we’re talking less than the cost of a cup of coffee per room per day. The less obvious I suppose is that it’s pointless if collecting the tax costs almost as much as it raises, but the idea seems to work well in many other places around the world.

Having just spent 6 weeks in Moscow where I genuinely saw one piece of litter in the entire time (a crisp packet on a bridge - so rare it was really that memorable), it’s hard to readjust to the dire state of the UK.

At the moment, it feels like a vicious circle. Dirty streets = less shame in making them dirtier. We’ll have to work on a way of taxing the seagulls for the mess they make at a later date....

Perhaps you could organise a litter pick? Do something positive?

 

[Chicken Run]

You know this. I know this.

You tell the government this.

Any Government too?

 

[AK74]

Well on one level it is. But recently back from a Greek island where the levy for a 3 star hotel was 1.5 euros per night per room. Fair play, Greece got absolutely battered financially by the EMF. It was a horrible time for the people. Still is. Can't really blame them for adding a small tax on visitors who jet in and jet out each summer and put a horrible strain on cash-strapped local services. Absolutely no reason it couldn't/shouldn't happen here.

Unbelievable.

 

[trueblue]

Perhaps you could organise a litter pick? Do something positive?

Plenty of that goes on already. Is it going to solve the problem?

 

[The Clamp]

Plenty of that goes on already. Is it going to solve the problem?

Nah, you’re right. Fuggit, let someone else do something.

 

[The Large One]

Any Government too?

Any government. All governments.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Unbelievable.

Yeah, you're quite correct, slip of the brain there. I did of course mean MFI, the furnishing specialist who withdrew all credit facilities, forcing Greece to go cap in hand to DFS.

 

[AK74]

Yeah, you're quite correct, slip of the brain there. I did of course mean MFI, the furnishing specialist who withdrew all credit facilities, forcing Greece to go cap in hand to DFS.

This was the direction I'd gone in.

 

[Cian]

Unless tourism is actually proving to be a cost rather than a benefit to a city, a tourist tax ends up being counter productive.

Also, if its high enough you really have to provide something concrete in return. In Basel, hotels that charge it give guests free public transport around the city; which is pretty heftily expensive for non-residents already.

 

[drew]

Well on one level it is. But recently back from a Greek island where the levy for a 3 star hotel was 1.5 euros per night per room. Fair play, Greece got absolutely battered financially by the EMF. It was a horrible time for the people. Still is. Can't really blame them for adding a small tax on visitors who jet in and jet out each summer and put a horrible strain on cash-strapped local services. Absolutely no reason it couldn't/shouldn't happen here.

Surely what put a strain on services was the woefully poor tax collection system at the time. For most of the greek Islands, tourism is the main source of income .

 

[The Large One]

I'm no fan of the Greens ( worst administration we've ever had ) but thankfully they've been gone a while. Agreed they've dumped us with the i360 debt which will be around for years regardless of the colour of the administration.

How many times do you have to keep peddling that lie before reality smashes you in the face? You're as up to date on facts as TTF above you there.

Repeating it like some dervish chant doesn't make it any truer. You'd shame Paul Dacre with your fabrications.

 

[The Clamp]

I'm no fan of the Greens ( worst administration we've ever had ) but thankfully they've been gone a while. Agreed they've dumped us with the i360 debt which will be around for years regardless of the colour of the administration.

Outright lie. You're a liar.

 

[trueblue]

Nah, you’re right. Fuggit, let someone else do something.

Well, I don’t drop litter and I often pick it up and bin it. So my conscience is pretty much clear. A more effective solution than that is obviously required. Hence the suggestion.

Alternatively, why not just snipe from the sidelines and offer nothing constructive? That’s another option.

 

[The Clamp]

Well, I don’t drop litter and I often pick it up and bin it. So my conscience is pretty much clear. A more effective solution than that is obviously required. Hence the suggestion.

Alternatively, why not just snipe from the sidelines and offer nothing constructive? That’s another option.

I offered you a constructive idea . Yo have dismissed it. End of subject.

 

[trueblue]

I offered you a constructive idea . Yo have dismissed it. End of subject.

I offered a constructive idea in the first place. Your response was the equivalent of telling someone to put their boots on and get out there and play if they’ve commented that Albion aren’t scoring enough. So not exactly moving things forward.

Anyway, we agree on one thing. End of subject.