[Travel] Tourism Backlash

[Deportivo Seagull]

So people are saying you shouldn't own a holiday home? Even if you've worked hard your whole life to be able to afford stuff like that?
You can tell the people to do one. Why should some one be sanctioned if the laws allow it
I don't own one by the way

When locals can’t get homes because outsiders have brought them up only to turn up a couple weeks in the year then it needs looking at. Then you have those that buy them up to rent them out. The irony is that it doesn’t matter how hard the locals work they still can’t afford to buy a home. The fact that for holiday home to work you need the locals ….

 

[bluenitsuj]

Yes, and apart from the second home / Airbnb problem, our main hospital in Cornwall can’t cope financially or physically with all the extra people.

Like every hospital in the UK.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Why did you have to go on a plane to get an Arctic Circle ? They sell them in London Road Iceland - a short walk from you.

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London Road Iceland ? Long gone!

They’re called Arctic Rolls as well.

 

[Fungus]

Like every hospital in the UK.

I don’t think every area in the UK has the same annual influx of tourists as we do in Cornwall, and we have the additional problem of being at the far end of the country. Treliske can’t cope with the local population outside the tourist season, and the tourists don’t bring extra funding.

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

The Arctic Circle is overrun with tourists?

Not an igloo to be had apparently...

 

[studio150]

We also need to think about the day trippers, time to ban visitors to Brighton and Hove, packing the beaches when the sun is out, taking all the parking spaces and causing grid lock to leaving rubbish everywhere. Time to build a wall round the city and keep the riff raff out.

Time for a new law in the UK you can only visit places away from your home that you can walk to and from in no more than 10 hours. (And no running allowed).

 

[LamieRobertson]

We also need to think about the day trippers, time to ban visitors to Brighton and Hove, packing the beaches when the sun is out, taking all the parking spaces and causing grid lock to leaving rubbish everywhere. Time to build a wall round the city and keep the riff raff in.

Time for a new law in the UK you can only visit places away from your home that you can walk to and from in no more than 10 hours. (And no running allowed).

Exactly

 

[Bodian]

We are on the edge of the Lake District. When I moved to my Avenue of 16 houses, 14 were lived in full-time, and we had a great community looking out for each other, going out for Avenue meals and so on.

Now we have two Air bnb's, three second homes (not often used), and two empty because the previous residents have died and those inheriting them haven't got the money to do them up. The whole feeling of living here has changed.

Meanwhile, they are building 100+ homes on the edge of the town because of the 'demand' for housing. If all the mostly empty second-homes were lived in, then the fields wouldn't need to be built on. And I couldn't move now, as the houses that do come up for sale in the town are almost always advertised as 'ideal holiday home' 'ideal for holiday lets' and so on.

 

[boik]

Maybe the answer is to put an end to the stupidly cheap-as-chips budget flights. Whack up the associated taxes til demand falls away. It's pretty insane that you can fly from, say, Gatwick to the Arctic Circle for fifty quid return. Like I've done. Twice.

Hear hear. Seem to remember that aviation fuel is tax-exempt. Nobody needs to kill the planet to lay next to a swimming pool for a fortnight.

 

[Gabbiano]

This is a huge issue in Portugal, that led directly to the election of a far right government.

In Lisbon you're looking at London property prices on less than half a London salary.

Why? Because the property market has been flooded with airbnbs and also Lisbon is one of the top global destinations for digital nomads with high salaries. It's a real issue that needs looking at, not simply an attitude of "but tourists bring in money!"

Barcelona has recently decided to ban Airbnb in the city, on a staged transition to allow the owners to find other income streams. It really needs more regulation and control, it's become a real problem in cities with a lot of tourists.

 

[Wes Tupper]

Who sold most of these second homes in the first place? Oh yes, the locals, happy to sell out for a huge profit, rather than sell to another local at a lower price.

 

[Weststander]

I don’t think every area in the UK has the same annual influx of tourists as we do in Cornwall, and we have the additional problem of being at the far end of the country. Treliske can’t cope with the local population outside the tourist season, and the tourists don’t bring extra funding.

Up to 270k are added to your population of 578k at any one time in July/August.

 

[Bakero]

Who sold most of these second homes in the first place? Oh yes, the locals, happy to sell out for a huge profit, rather than sell to another local at a lower price.

And many of the holiday lets and apartments rented to digital nomads are owned by locals. Doesn't mean the rest aren't being fecked over.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

We also need to think about the day trippers, time to ban visitors to Brighton and Hove, packing the beaches when the sun is out, taking all the parking spaces and causing grid lock to leaving rubbish everywhere. Time to build a wall round the city and keep the riff raff out.

Time for a new law in the UK you can only visit places away from your home that you can walk to and from in no more than 10 hours. (And no running allowed).

I certainly think there’s a need for addressing AirBnB like many other countries and cities are.

 

[dsr-burnley]

Maybe the answer is to put an end to the stupidly cheap-as-chips budget flights. Whack up the associated taxes til demand falls away. It's pretty insane that you can fly from, say, Gatwick to the Arctic Circle for fifty quid return. Like I've done. Twice.

The good old days when only the rich went away, and the poor got a week in Blackpool if they were lucky?

 

[Bakero]

The good old days when only the rich went away, and the poor got a week in Blackpool if they were lucky?

People going on cheap package holidays aren't the problem. It's the weekend (or longer) breaks in popular cities that are the main problem.

As for cheap flights, maybe Governments should incentivise trips to less popular areas. There's a reason places like Málaga are swamped. Why would you pay £150 to go to Almería or Murcia when Málaga is 20 quid.

Ps. Don't come to Almería

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The good old days when only the rich went away, and the poor got a week in Blackpool if they were lucky?

I wouldn’t describe spending a week in Blackpool as lucky, far from it. My abiding memory of the place is seeing a heavily pregnant girl smoking and drinking and the whole place smelling of fried bacon on Sunday morning as I tried, in vain, to find an Observer.

 

[Weststander]

The good old days when only the rich went away, and the poor got a week in Blackpool if they were lucky?

Exactly.

I knew some ex public school tw@ts (third or second gen money) who hated the sea-change from the mid-80’s where the British masses started doing the Caribbean, NZ/Aus, round the world flights bundles, also appearing on England cricket winter tours. Hated that with a passion.

 

[Milano]

Who sold most of these second homes in the first place? Oh yes, the locals, happy to sell out for a huge profit, rather than sell to another local at a lower price.

This. I live in a small mid-Sussex village and there is a prominent dick head who has been complaining loudly for years about Londoners moving down and driving up prices so ‘locals’ like him can’t afford to buy. A couple of years ago he inherited his Mum’s house up the road………..and sold it to a family moving down from Wimbledon……..

 

[Gabbiano]

Who sold most of these second homes in the first place? Oh yes, the locals, happy to sell out for a huge profit, rather than sell to another local at a lower price.

Doesn't really help you if you're a recent graduate on a low salary just trying to buy a house though does it.

Makes no difference if it's a local seller being greedy or a foreigner. The market needs regulating so that locals aren't simply priced out of the areas they've lived in for generations.

The hostility towards tourists is because this is where the demand is coming from. But really it's a failure of regulation to serve the interests of the local citizens.