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[Politics] Tory party achievements 2010 - 2024



Happy Exile

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Yep. See my other answer. He should be clearer but the government has built none of the 200,000 houses they promised they'd build, specifically affordable starter homes for the under 40s.
 








The Antikythera Mechanism

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He should be clearer but he's right - the government promised they'd fund and build 200,000 "starter homes" over ten years to create affordable housing, of which none have ever been built. They went as far as acquiring some land...which was then used for private housing developments.
Maybe I've been asleep for the last 14 years, but I've never heard of the Government promising to "build" and "fund" new homes. As far as I'm aware, the days of Local Authorities, funding, building (by way of private contractors), owning and renting council houses are a thing of the past, not least because most LA's are verging on bancruptcy.. All new large housing developments must have an element of "Affordable" housing, usually in the region of 40%, either rented or part ownership through Housing Associations. So he's still wrong.
 






Sid and the Sharknados

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And besides that, wind farms generate very little energy.
Not sure how exactly you intend that to be interpreted.

But on the plus side, while looking this up I found these tracker websites that I could look at ALL DAY.




29.4% of UK generation over 2023, and just over a fifth of UK generation at the time of posting.
 


Peteinblack

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Maybe I've been asleep for the last 14 years, but I've never heard of the Government promising to "build" and "fund" new homes. As far as I'm aware, the days of Local Authorities, funding, building (by way of private contractors), owning and renting council houses are a thing of the past, not least because most LA's are verging on bancruptcy.. All new large housing developments must have an element of "Affordable" housing, usually in the region of 40%, either rented or part ownership through Housing Associations. So he's still wrong.
I always wonder what is defined as "affordable" - affordable to who?! People on £25,000 salary or £125,000?

Problem is that building homes for people on low incomes is simply not profitable to private building firms which are naturally only concerned with profit maximisation and increasing shareholder value.

Again, 'the market' does not necessarily serves the interests, or meet the needs, of those on low incomes; they are not deemed to be 'profitable' consumers or customers.
 
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Happy Exile

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Maybe I've been asleep for the last 14 years, but I've never heard of the Government promising to "build" and "fund" new homes. As far as I'm aware, the days of Local Authorities, funding, building (by way of private contractors), owning and renting council houses are a thing of the past, not least because most LA's are verging on bancruptcy.. All new large housing developments must have an element of "Affordable" housing, usually in the region of 40%, either rented or part ownership through Housing Associations. So he's still wrong.
This has a bit more - I don't know enough about the mechanisms of house building but it does look like the government promised to fund (possibly indirectly) 200,000 new homes but never legislated to make it happen

 




A1X

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Far be it from me to praise the Tories, but there is one serious answer here that I think we should absolutely give them some credit for

Gay marriage

Would it have been achieved without the Lib Dems in coalition with them? Probably not, but nevertheless it was a bold decision to bring it in
 


The Antikythera Mechanism

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I always wonder what is defined as "affordable" - affordable to who?! People on £25,000 salary or £125,000?

Problem is that building homes for people on low incomes is simply not profitable to private building firms which are naturally only concerned with profit maximisation and increasing shareholder value.

Again, 'the market' does not necessarily serves the interests, or meet the needs, of those on low incomes; they are not deemed to be 'profitable' consumers of customers.
You're absolutely right, as the term "Affordable" as a rule of thumb is meant to reflect 80% of the market value, which in most areas is beyond the reach of those on lower wages.

The cost of building new homes is not so much in the construction costs as developers pay very low rates to their sub-contractors, but in the cost of the land and the huge profit margins they require. With their profits they buy up land as land banks to use in the future, then inflating prices to profit further from the earlier land purchases.
 


Peteinblack

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You're absolutely right, as the term "Affordable" as a rule of thumb is meant to reflect 80% of the market value, which in most areas is beyond the reach of those on lower wages.

The cost of building new homes is not so much in the construction costs as developers pay very low rates to their sub-contractors, but in the cost of the land and the huge profit margins they require. With their profits they buy up land as land banks to use in the future, then inflating prices to profit further from the earlier land purchases.
Yes, a massive site near us - previously a large Homebase store - has been derelict for 3 years. I keep wondering who has bought it, and why they are not developing it. I suspect that they are perfectly happy to leave it empty until land values increase further,

In the meantime, we'll repeatedly be told that the lack of (affordable) housing is due to immigrants!
 




Pavilionaire

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What are the best achievements of a broken clock?

1. It is right twice a day.
2. It looks like it is working (until you observe it closely for a while and discover it is f*cked).
 


Jul 20, 2003
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Introducing the UK to tractor porn and the practice of sticking your cock in a dead pig's mouth.
 






medwayseagull reborn

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Whichever way you look at it, even the most ardent Tory must see that the list is absolutely pathetic for fourteen years of government.
 


nicko31

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Whichever way you look at it, even the most ardent Tory must see that the list is absolutely pathetic for fourteen years of government.
There has been without doubt challenges in the last 14 years, some by global or regional shocks.

IMHO I didn't think 2010-15 was too bad, but instead of building on this in their second term and taking the opportunity to ease austerity they lost their minds choosing to appease the right wing of their party rather than the good of country.

Political stalemate, chaos, mass expulsions and ridiculous leadership followed consumed by populism and nationalism. The end result is the public are very disillusioned with politicians, many of whom lied through their teeth.
 
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Triggaaar

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I couldn't have named a single good thing they've done in 14 years, but this thread has completely opened my eyes.

I'm switching my vote to Tory.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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Boris The Liar getting his comeuppance and the subsequent appointment of Liz Truss for 49 days.
 


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