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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...









ClemFandango

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My opinion is that your posts are getting more desperate by the day. It's really rather amusing, as I said a few pages back :thumbsup:
So a second Labour MP has been suspended today over anti-Semitic remarks. Main headline on The Guardian front page (that’s right, The Guardian, not the Mail, or Telegraph or Sun etc) says this: ‘Labour in turmoil as party ditches second candidate over Israel views’.
Do you think their reporting is ‘desperate’ too?
 
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Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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So a second Labour MP has been suspended today over anti-Semitic remarks. The party still has a big problem whichever way you look at it, despite Starmer’s admirable attempts to deal with it in the past
Still less of a problem than the Tories appear to have with sex offenders in their ranks the last couple of years though eh!
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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So a second Labour MP has been suspended today over anti-Semitic remarks. The party still has a big problem whichever way you look at it, despite Starmer’s admirable attempts to deal with it in the past
Whereas the Tories don't bother suspending or reprimanding Councillors, MPs, or even PMs for antisemitism or racist remarks. Is that a better approach?
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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My opinion (and this is the wrong thread for it) is that people should be given the benefit of the doubt in the event of single missteps but if further evidence of a pattern of behaviour emerges then that’s a different story. That appears to be what happened in this scenario and the party acted accordingly. It begs questions of the local party who chose him as a candidate, but the idea it reflects on the wider party or Starmer is ludicrous IMHO.

Should someone be barred from office if they were found to chant “Go get your father’s gun and shoot the Palace scum” in the North stand? I don’t think so. Actually taking a gun to Croydon and waving it about, however…
This. Starmer acted.

Meanwhile the ****s Johnson, Schapps, and Thick Lizzie, not to mention Sunk, are still at large.
 


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So a second Labour MP has been suspended today over anti-Semitic remarks. Main headline on The Guardian front page (that’s right, The Guardian, not the Mail, or Telegraph or Sun etc) says this: ‘Labour in turmoil as party ditches second candidate over Israel views’.
Do you think their reporting is ‘desperate’ too?
He is dealing with it in the present.

I am a labour member and admit that local parties are full of arseholes*.

And get this. I resigned from my union 2 years ago after some Palestinian lecturer on Palestinian studies got a motion passed to boycott Israel and all her doings. And yet, the local muppet I sent my email of resignation to, who replied with a 'thanks and ta ra' email, is now lobbying me to vote for him in some new tomfoolery. Can't even keep their records up to date. Lazy left wink wankers. I may engage him in a long conversation later, for shits and giggles.

They will all be dead when Starmer is PM. In the sea. Nowhere from power. The cretins.

Meanwhile, the tories will be still be braising in a broth of Sunk, marinated with Rwanda, and spending a great deal of time with their money. Mone, notwithstanding


* all parties are locally run by activists drunk on their sense of self importance. Which is why I never attend my local meetings. The cat has more important and resonant things to say to me. Mioaw.
 






Westdene Seagull

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Oct 27, 2003
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Whereas the Tories don't bother suspending or reprimanding Councillors, MPs, or even PMs for antisemitism or racist remarks. Is that a better approach?
Or indeed anti-muslim 'jokes' *cough*
 




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TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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A woman is facing deportation, and being separated from her husband and 10-year-old son, despite a court ruling that the family has the right to live together in the UK.

Malwattege Peiris has been told by the Home Office to leave the UK despite the court ruling in her favour and correspondence from the Home Office confirming this decision.
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,453
Sussex by the Sea
That's the fear.

Mrs DiS was listening to something this morning - I think it was the Alastair Campbell/Rory Stewart podcast - where thet were contemplating whether today's Conservative party is closer to the Conservative party of 20 years ago, or to the BNP of 20 years ago. The answer was the latter!
These two clowns are appearing at the Brighton Centre in October, 'The Rest is Politics'.
I'd sooner swim through Lego.
 




WATFORD zero

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These two clowns are appearing at the Brighton Centre in October, 'The Rest is Politics'.
I'd sooner swim through Lego.

The Tories definitely aren't having a total meltdown, they're not, They're NOT, THEY'RE NOT :tantrum:


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hart's shirt

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Jul 8, 2003
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Kitbag in Dubai
Labour gains Kingswood.

11,220 majority overturned.

16.4% swing.

  • Labour: 11,176
  • Conservatives: 8,675
  • Reform UK: 2,578
  • Liberal Democrats: 861
  • Green Party: 1,459
  • UKIP: 129
Reform vote of 2,578 bigger than the Labour majority of 2,501.
 
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jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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Tories later on today: “We are listening”.

I have a wager with a mate on who is the first Tory to say this immortal line, he has gone with Sunak, I think it’ll be James Cleverley.

It’s on the bingo card of lines the parties always say when they get a (deserved) shoeing in an election/by-election.

Other non-committal/passive aggressive classics include “difficulties communicating our message to voters”, “difficult time for the country”, etc
 




TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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I wonder if the Tories will try take Rishi out between now and the general election due to the 28.5 point swing we've seen...
 


jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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I wonder if the Tories will try take Rishi out between now and the general election due to the 28.5 point swing we've seen...
Highly doubt this. There is nobody better. Take this as a damning indictment of the current Tory lot, rather than any sort of praise for Sunak. There is nobody with “clean hands”. Everyone with a chance of displacing Sunak is stained by the current leadership’s abject failure in government.

The only option is to brave this election out, take their medicine, and start afresh by getting the old guard out and completely new, untainted faces leading in opposition.
 


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