[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[MJsGhost]

I think the above statement happens to be true ....... if we're talking about the tories

The VAST majority of the ones left after Bojo's purge in any case.

Assuming they lose the next election (IMO absolutely no chance of getting a majority, so it's an unlikely hung parliament at best for them), it's potentially 2029 before another election. I wouldn't wish death on them, but it's a logical conclusion that a chunk of staunch Tory voters will have shuffled off this mortal coil by then.

Without a pivot away from where the ERG, 30p Lee, Braverman and other assorted loons have them heading, they are going to be out of power for a VERY long time.

 

[nicko31]

The VAST majority of the ones left after Bojo's purge in any case.

Assuming they lose the next election (IMO absolutely no chance of getting a majority, so it's an unlikely hung parliament at best for them), it's potentially 2029 before another election. I wouldn't wish death on them, but it's a logical conclusion that a chunk of staunch Tory voters will have shuffled off this mortal coil by then.

Without a pivot away from where the ERG, 30p Lee, Braverman and other assorted loons have them heading, they are going to be out of power for a VERY long time.

Its like the kids got all the teachers the sack and are running the school themselves

 

[CHAPPERS]

Another Brexit meltdown incoming…

 

[CHAPPERS]

Badenoch getting a right telling off

 

[A1X]

The VAST majority of the ones left after Bojo's purge in any case.

Assuming they lose the next election (IMO absolutely no chance of getting a majority, so it's an unlikely hung parliament at best for them), it's potentially 2029 before another election. I wouldn't wish death on them, but it's a logical conclusion that a chunk of staunch Tory voters will have shuffled off this mortal coil by then.

Without a pivot away from where the ERG, 30p Lee, Braverman and other assorted loons have them heading, they are going to be out of power for a VERY long time.

They need someone to do to them what Kinnock did to the Labour party in the mid to late 1980s, face down the headbangers and force them out. It'll be a bloodbath and it'll need someone bold and with bottle to do it, but it's probably their only hope of any realistic comeback in the medium term. What I think is more likely is they'll go harder right and end up in a 1983 scenario first. Cameron had the opportunity but squandered it.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

They need someone to do to them what Kinnock did to the Labour party in the mid to late 1980s, face down the headbangers and force them out. It'll be a bloodbath and it'll need someone bold and with bottle to do it, but it's probably their only hope of any realistic comeback in the medium term. What I think is more likely is they'll go harder right and end up in a 1983 scenario first. Cameron had the opportunity but squandered it.

Well. It's worse isn't it? The headbangers have faced down the Conservatives. They're UKIP now. Who will be left to oversee the transition you are referring to?

 

[nicko31]

Another Brexit meltdown incoming…

Think even Sunak has realised getting rid of all EU laws would be suicide for UK businesses already in a fragile trading state with our biggest trade partner.

Badenoch is clueless

 

[Hugo Rune]

Think even Sunak has realised getting rid of all EU laws would be suicide for UK businesses already in a fragile trading state with our biggest trade partner.

Badenoch is clueless

The haunted pencil is getting into a proper state about this. I can’t wait until election night 2024 when he’ll be kicked out for a Lib Dem. This is one of those seats that Labour should definitely not contend.

 

[Blue3]

Think even Sunak has realised getting rid of all EU laws would be suicide for UK businesses already in a fragile trading state with our biggest trade partner.

Badenoch is clueless

Scrapping the EU laws will be to the detriment of British workers, I am old enough to remember working conditions prior to the introduction of the European six pack and the immense impact it had on workplace safety putting into law the employers and employees joint responsibility to safety.
JRM and his like want the uk to become far less regulated moving it back a time when workplace deaths were to far to common.
why would he want this well it’s cost versus risk instead of laws that state how safety in the workplace is to be applied it will become more of a risk assessment based on work undertaken against cost savings to win contracts by using cheaper safety options.
Years ago I needing money to pay a mortgage which was increasing weekly due to rising interest rates would volunteer to undertake overtime which was looking back incredibly damaging to heath with no adequate breathing apparatus we breathed in asbestos dust this went on for years, one of my colleagues has subsequently died as a result.
Had the health and safety laws we have in place now been place then we would never have been put it that situation in the first place

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Scrapping the EU laws will be to the detriment of British workers, I am old enough to remember working conditions prior to the introduction of the European six pack and the immense impact it had on workplace safety putting into law the employers and employees joint responsibility to safety.
JRM and his like want the uk to become far less regulated moving it back a time when workplace deaths were to far to common.
why would he want this well it’s cost versus risk instead of laws that state how safety in the workplace is to be applied it will become more of a risk assessment based on work undertaken against cost savings to win contracts by using cheaper safety options.
Years ago I needing money to pay a mortgage which was increasing weekly due to rising interest rates would volunteer to undertake overtime which was looking back incredibly damaging to heath with no adequate breathing apparatus we breathed in asbestos dust this went on for years, one of my colleagues has subsequently died as a result.
Had the health and safety laws we have in place now been place then we would never have been put it that situation in the first place

Deregulation was the whole point of the exercise for him and his lot. Leaving the EU was just a means to an end. Why should companies have to eat into potential profits to protect their staff's safety? Why should water companies not be able to pay large shareholder dividends when the rivers are full of shit?

 

[nicko31]

Deregulation was the whole point of the exercise for him and his lot. Leaving the EU was just a means to an end. Why should companies have to eat into potential profits to protect their staff's safety? Why should water companies not be able to pay large shareholder dividends when the rivers are full of shit?

Immigration was Brexit's trogan horse and just a tool to groom the working class into blaming immigrants for their predicament.

But light touch regulation and scrutiny was the prize, there's money to be made...

 

[WATFORD zero]

Immigration was Brexit's trogan horse and just a tool to groom the working class into blaming immigrants for their predicament.

But light touch regulation and scrutiny was the prize, there's money to be made...

The facts were all there for anyone who didn't have their fingers in their ears shouting 'PROJECT FEAR'

 

[Lever]

This is worth watching. A complete summary of bad faith by the butterball Johnson...

 

[MJsGhost]

The facts were all there for anyone who didn't have their fingers in their ears shouting 'PROJECT FEAR'

OBVIOUSLY, it would never happen, but I wonder what the impact would be if that Guy Hands interview was published in the Daily Mail?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

13 hours in handcuffs, locked up, physically searched, for standing near silent protestors.
An Aussie who didn’t even know who Just Stop Oil are.

 

[The Clamp]

UK ‘bottom of G7 growth league table’; Royal Mail CEO stepping down – business live

UK’s recovery since pandemic has lagged other G7 nations, despite expanding by 0.1% in first quarter of 2023

www.theguardian.com

 

[The Clamp]

13 hours in handcuffs, locked up, physically searched, for standing near silent protestors.
An Aussie who didn’t even know who Just Stop Oil are.

Yep.

Our right to peaceful protest ended last Saturday.

Once rights are removed they tend not to come back .

A dark day for Britain.

Plough the f***ing lot of them into a ditch.

 

[nicko31]

Yep.

Our right to peaceful protest ended last Saturday.

Once rights are removed they tend not to come back .

A dark day for Britain.

Plough the f***ing lot of them into a ditch.

Countries rarely become more free, apart from the USA (still reeling from 4 years with a fascist in charge)no other country is losing freedoms faster than the UK.

To me Starmer needs to be bolder in call this stuff out. Call the f**kers out as authoritian and anti democratic, he's being too nice

 

[The Clamp]

“ Chambers was told she was being arrested on suspicion of “potential to cause a breach of peace”.

This is VERY scary.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Countries rarely become more free, apart from the USA (still reeling from 4 years with a fascist in charge)no other country is losing freedoms faster than the UK.

To me Starmer needs to be bolder in call this stuff out. Call the f**kers out as authoritian and anti democratic, he's being too nice

No point saying anything until he's in a position to act. He's not going to attract floating voters by announcing he will repeal laws that lots of floating voters like. Announce decisions that will restore some freedoms when the benefits can immediately be seen, not when they are simply promises that unsettle the naturally Labour-skeptic