[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[BadFish]

In case anybody has forgotten what yesterday's committee hearing was really about

That thread is incredible, how can Boris still have any kind of career. Without even thinking about the rest of them following his lead.

Words fail me that any political party would have him as a member, that any voter could go near him or that he has the brass neck to try and defend his actions.

 

[papachris]

Completely inappropriate remark from Mogg, shows he has no respect for parliament...

I remember when Boris was ill he stood on at PMQ's and layed across the front bench yawning. That's how much respect he has for parliament

 

[rippleman]

I remember when Boris was ill he stood on at PMQ's and layed across the front bench yawning. That's how much respect he has for parliament

The current incumbent, slippery Sunak is no better. He was chuckling and smirking when Starmer asked a question at PMQs about support for families suffering in the cost of living crisis and increased costs of energy.

His attempts to bury bad news by publishing details of his taxes during the bungle****'s interrogation sHowed why he found the whole thing funny. With wealth in excess of £750m he doesn't give a shit about price increases.

His tax break on pension savings only benefits the very highest earners (like him). Nothing for those at the other end of society who are really struggling. So unbelievably out of touch.

Starmer MUST fix this disparity in society where someone with Sunak's wealth pays such a pitifully low rate of tax.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

They've been watching GB News and reading the Daily Mail

But to be fair, as a group of people, they've never been above following their lowest instincts when they get in the voting booth

Not even that, it's 'I like Boris (note the first name like he's your mate) because he's funny' Charisma has a lot to answer for.

I can remember Bozza starting a thread about whether Johnson was a genius or a clown, when the latter was Mayor of London.
Unfortunately, some women love a charismatic man even when he is known to be an inveterate liar. It's excused like a naughty boy is excused. You just cannot persuade them, they're being used and abused. He's doing his best, which is something you'd say about a five year old.
My sister in law, for example, doesn't read any newspapers, and occasionally watches the news, yet claims to be apolitical.

 

[Guinness Boy]

That thread is incredible, how can Boris still have any kind of career. Without even thinking about the rest of them following his lead.

Words fail me that any political party would have him as a member, that any voter could go near him or that he has the brass neck to try and defend his actions.

He's very popular with a certain type who are quite happy to accept that this old Etonian, Oxbridge graduate and Telegraph feature writer is a "man of the people".

Look at his cheeky face! Look at him barging that Japanese child out of the way! Ho, ho, ho. He's been on HIGNFY! I bet he'd be fun to have a pint with. Him and Nige, what a night out that would be. No wokeness there. You could spend the whole night getting smashed, trash talking immigrants and pinching the barmaid's bum just like the old days and then do a runner when the tab was due. What larks! And he got Brexit done. Without that, do you know where you'd be? Hosting a swan eating Albanian drug dealer in your spare bedroom while the country was run by Gary Lineker, who'd be busy turning it into Pyongyang and making everyone use people's correct pronouns, that's where.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

To me, the staff morale excuse is the lowest excuse of them all.
As we have read, people committed suicide during lockdown through lack of contact, people died alone, families couldn't hold full funeral services and a woman was arrested for removing her own mother from a care home because they were both suffering from loneliness. (she was de-arrested later)


Morale, my foot!

This was absolutely outrageous, no one pushed back on this at the time - she was taking her to live with them, given the state of the care homes it was going to be safer.

Everyone fined should be refunded.

 

[papachris]

The current incumbent, slippery Sunak is no better. He was chuckling and smirking when Starmer asked a question at PMQs about support for families suffering in the cost of living crisis and increased costs of energy.

His attempts to bury bad news by publishing details of his taxes during the bungle****'s interrogation sHowed why he found the whole thing funny. With wealth in excess of £750m he doesn't give a shit about price increases.

His tax break on pension savings only benefits the very highest earners (like him). Nothing for those at the other end of society who are really struggling. So unbelievably out of touch.

Starmer MUST fix this disparity in society where someone with Sunak's wealth pays such a pitifully low rate of tax.

The tax change on pensions really is for high earners. For a guy with a working class background I think I did quite well with a job in middle management most of my career. I was even paying extra 13% instead of 7.5% the last five years or so. I feel I was incredibly lucky to be able to retire abroad at 59 a couple of years ago with my pot of around £400k. A lot of people won't make that much, let alone more than a million

 

[SK1NT]

I had most of it on in the background whilst WFH, listening to the greased piglet squealing his fat little snout off. The fop-haired c*nt even had a haircut for the occasion - no doubt to somehow come across as more "serious" today, rather than looking like he'd just woken up in a skip in Brixton after a heavy night out and dragged his arse to work.

His defence is about as robust as a bead curtain. YES he misled Parliament, but "not knowingly", because all of his expert advisers told him "yeah, all good boss" during the endless series of piss-ups at No10 that he either attended, or bafflingly claims he knew nothing about. In his own home.

He was the PM. Him and his civil servants drew up the COVID rules/guidelines (take your pick), whereupon he went on TV night after night dictating these rules for us to follow. The fact that he then needed a series of "advisors" to tell him whether or not they'd broken these rules is patently BOLLOCKS to anyone who hasn't recently had a full frontal lobotomy, or slopes around at Palace games clad head to foot in black.

He takes responsibility for nothing. Its always someone elses fault. He lies, obfuscates, waffles, blathers, bullshits, muddies the waters and takes us all for mugs. It was CLASSIC Johnson today as he bumbled his arse through that hearing, and it was frankly delicious to see him FINALLY get the forensic close examination and questioning on the total waffle he's been spewing out his whole career and getting away with.

The greased pig got skewered this afternoon. Now lets hope there are some serious consequences that proper fucks his political career, permanently.

couldn't have written it better if i tried.

 

[Nobby]

It doesn't matter if he is acquitted because he persuades the committee that he is the most stupid man to ever sit in parliament.

Like Thierry Henri's hand ball goal in the qualifiers, all everyone will remember is that France went on to win the tournament.

After the acquittal, Boris will sit back ready to resume the role of leader after Sunak loses the next general election.

Unless the committee have the courage and sense of honour to defenestrate him. One chance to drain the Johnson swamp.....my money is on exoneration.

I'm not sure he will be acquitted, Harry.

He has an extremely ropey defence, extremely ropey - will it honestly wash with them that he was too thick to realise he was offside of the guidelines, the guidelines which he himself had announced many times?

The Committee appears to be akin to the Top Six in the Premier League, facing a newly promoted club. So the advantage is with the Committee at this stage I feel.
But, the four Tories on it, are going to face pressure from their own MP's, their own constituents and the attack dog press to let him off.

All the same, Johnson is walking a fine line here. And a bit like VAR, that line could be drawn anywhere by the committee.

His immediate future depends on exactly where they draw that line.

There is one big positive - we should thank our lucky stars, that it's not Lee Mason or John Brooks drawing it!!

 

[KZNSeagull]

If you want to hear some utter loons defending Boris then the Nikki Campbell phone-in between 9 and 9.30 was entertaining. It is a remainer witch-hunt to get rid of Boris but Lee Anderson will be the next leader and he will sort everything out apparently.

 

[Lever]

We could do with 'Right behind Boris' @Mouldy Boots on here to explain why the former PM is the victim of a witch hunt.......

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

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When I saw that first I genuinely thought it was the headline…… from just a swift glance.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

We could do with 'Right behind Boris' @Mouldy Boots on here to explain why the former PM is the victim of a witch hunt.......

Is there still a working ducking stool anywhere within easy striking distance of Westminster. They were used in witch trials.

 

[rippleman]

If Boris is sanctioned by the Committee, and it appears that is almost inevitable, it will then be down to the Tory MPs to decide his punishment. (Labour MPs will want the most telling punishment but the Tories still have such a huge majority in the Commons).

Isn't it likely that the Tories will vote with Boris as they will not want him to be standing in a by-election (which would almost certainly happen if he got suspended for more than 10 days).

Of course, most people will be asking how the f*ck the Tories haven't kicked him out of the party already.

 

[WATFORD zero]

We could do with 'Right behind Boris' @Mouldy Boots on here to explain why the former PM is the victim of a witch hunt.......

The Johnson cabal supporters are still here, even if those particular accounts aren't.

Just look out for the "They're all the same", "Why isn't Starmer doing more", "I don't support this Government, but" posts from the more recent NSC joiners

 

[Bodian]

Like Thierry Henri's hand ball goal in the qualifiers, all everyone will remember is that France went on to win the tournament.

I had actually completely forgotten the latter bit - whereas I can still picture that handball.

 

[WATFORD zero]

If Boris is sanctioned by the Committee, and it appears that is almost inevitable, it will then be down to the Tory MPs to decide his punishment. (Labour MPs will want the most telling punishment but the Tories still have such a huge majority in the Commons).

Isn't it likely that the Tories will vote with Boris as they will not want him to be standing in a by-election (which would almost certainly happen if he got suspended for more than 10 days).

Of course, most people will be asking how the f*ck the Tories haven't kicked him out of the party already.

It will be an interesting question for Sunak if it goes to the vote. Does he back the man mainly responsible for his meteoric rise in Politics and back the lies or does he abandon him and take what could possibly be a massive hit on the by-election result.

Johnson has always been a walking shit spreader, the question for Sunak is will he spread more crap inside the tent or outside. What a conundrum

 

[chickens]

The Johnson cabal supporters are still here, even if the accounts aren't.

Just look out for the 'They're all the same', 'Why isn't Starmer doing more' posts from the more recent NSC joiners

This is absolutely true IRL too. I remember the day after Cameron won his first (coalition) victory, I walked into a pub I’d been frequenting for years, and very much liked. Sitting at a table near the bar was someone dressed as an honest to god 1980s yuppie. Curtains hairstyle, braying voice, lots of talk about how much money he was going to make.

They hide under rocks during Labour governments, but they don’t have any self-realisation or grow any form of social conscience, they just seethe in their own resentment until the asset strippers are back in charge and they can go on enriching themselves at the expense of making the world for most of us slightly worse.

 

[Bold Seagull]

We could do with 'Right behind Boris' @Mouldy Boots on here to explain why the former PM is the victim of a witch hunt.......

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

We could do with 'Right behind Boris' @Mouldy Boots on here to explain why the former PM is the victim of a witch hunt.......

I think he's fed up with the constant whining of we remainer Trained Marxists, constantly sniping at the man who saved us from Covid and talking this great country down.