[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[A1X]

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[drew]

Our ‘constitution’ is really a hodgepodge of laws and rules which works fine while everyone plays by them, but I’d argue Boris’ Trump-like qualities have shown that a lot of this needs re-looking at. A rule that a GE must happen if a party changes leaders is a sensible one, and could easily be added to our ‘constitution’. It would avoid having our PM voted in by a handful of geriatric little englanders (or indeed by a bunch of Red Flag singing leftie loons - with Starmer’s sensibleness, it’s easy to forget that not long ago the other lot saw fit to pick Corbyn as well).

The system isn't great but do you honestly think the Tory MPs would have voted out Boris if they knew that would trigger a general election just after their new leader got elected? Turkeys voting for xmas. That said, after what Truss has done to the economy I suspect we could just about tolerate Johnson for the next two years, lesser of two evils.

 

[Machiavelli]

Well, I never realised Ready 4 Rishi's sense of humour: he's said that he won't be attending conference, because he wants the Prime Minister to have her moment

 

[Motogull]

The Tories need a clear out. They've lost their way. Sensible old ones like Heseltine and Clarke must find the current situation disturbing. First off, kick out the ERG and ban little groovy gangs like that.

 

[Baldseagull]

Interesting range of people being blamed, other than Truss and Kwarteng's budget, for the run on the Pound.

Dan Hannan - "The pound isn’t crashing over a trifling batch of tax cuts. It’s because the markets are terrified of Starmer."
John Redwood - The Bank of England.
Crispin Odey - Remainers.
Kwasi Kwarteng - City traders. To be fair, this is technically true, but you can't bang on about deregulation and free markets, and then complain when these guys do what they do.

 

[Bakero]

Worth adding that KamiKwasi's latest manoeuvre to calm the markets down is to insist that all government departments have to make efficiency savings. He really is a bright spark.

Might as well wave the playbook above his head.

 

[drew]

The Tories need a clear out. They've lost their way. Sensible old ones like Heseltine and Clarke must find the current situation disturbing. First off, kick out the ERG and ban little groovy gangs like that.

I think the problem is that the party has shifted to far to the right and the decent number of Tory MPs are in the minority. If they had a backbone they side with decency in a vote of no confidence and we'd have an election!

 

[Lever]

The system isn't great but do you honestly think the Tory MPs would have voted out Boris if they knew that would trigger a general election just after their new leader got elected? Turkeys voting for xmas. That said, after what Truss has done to the economy I suspect we could just about tolerate Johnson for the next two years, lesser of two evils.

No.
We couldn’t.
Weren’t you welcoming Truss as the new PM?

 

[The Clamp]

Not only do we have the traditional greedy Tory's in charge, we now have thick, greedy, Tory's in charge.

It has been a well known practice in the Conservative party for years that all documents must be "Truss proofed". As in, simplified enough that the daft cow can understand them. And now she is in charge.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Interesting range of people being blamed, other than Truss and Kwarteng's budget, for the run on the Pound.

Dan Hannan - "The pound isn’t crashing over a trifling batch of tax cuts. It’s because the markets are terrified of Starmer."
John Redwood - The Bank of England.
Crispin Odey - Remainers.
Kwasi Kwarteng - City traders. To be fair, this is technically true, but you can't bang on about deregulation and free markets, and then complain when these guys do what they do.

And they are all wrong!

It’s Jeremy bloody Corbyn. The Tories promised us political chaos and huge debt with a magic money tree with him in charge. Well, if he hadn’t have put those ideas into Tory heads, perhaps they wouldn’t have enacted them!

What a shit that man is!

 

[Dick Head]

Rumours of letters of no confidence going in, Truss being removed...



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About time too!

 

[T.G]

About time too!

Reported to be 10 so far …not bad after a couple of weeks!

 

[Machiavelli]

No.
We couldn’t.
Weren’t you welcoming Truss as the new PM?

I don't follow all threads/posts, but I'd be very surprised if your final point is correct and, more broadly, I think you've misread the post you're responding to.

 

[Machiavelli]

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...voting-intention-con-21-lab-54-28-29-sep-2022

 

[A1X]

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Mid Sussex returns a Labour MP on that swing, BTW.

 

[Lever]

I don't follow all threads/posts, but I'd be very surprised if your final point is correct and, more broadly, I think you've misread the post you're responding to.

With respect, I responded first to 'I suspect we could just about tolerate Johnson for the next two years, lesser of two evils' by saying no we couldn't.... because I do not think it would be 'the lesser of two evils'

Regards 'Weren’t you welcoming Truss as the new PM?'....I wasn't sure which is why it was a question and not a 'point'.....

 

[WATFORD zero]

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...voting-intention-con-21-lab-54-28-29-sep-2022

That is truly remarkable

Even after the last 7 years, I really find it hard to believe that after last week there's still 21% who have decided Truss/Kwarteng, that's definitely who I want running the country for the next 5 years

I'd actually assumed that the few posts on NSC currently supporting them were just wind-up accounts who didn't actually bother to vote (like one admitted a few days ago and will probably give the thumbs up to this)

 

[Is it PotG?]

I'd actually assumed that the few posts on NSC currently supporting them were just wind-up accounts who didn't actually bother to vote (like one admitted a few days ago)

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[Kinky Gerbil]

Will she last till Christmas?

Letters already going in

 

[Bozza]

Will she last till Christmas?

Letters already going in

Only if they change the rules - a new Tory leader can't be challenged for 12 months under existing rules.