[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

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[One Teddy Maybank]

Can this not be merged with the other thread or better still create a separate section for politics.

 

[Notters]

Please could you point me towards the current 'effective leadership' ?

Sorry, I meant effectively without leadership.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Can this not be merged with the other thread or better still create a separate section for politics.

I'm pretty sure that the idea of giving each thread a prefix was so that you didn't have to see what you didn't want. I know there's a prefix of 'politics' and hopefully someone more technical than me can explain how you can view avoiding these threads

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

I'm pretty sure that the idea of giving each thread a prefix was so that you didn't have to see what you didn't want. I know there's a prefix of 'politics' and hopefully someone more technical than me can explain how you can view avoiding these threads

Good point.

Before anyone says “you don’t have to open”. I actually would prefer not to have it cluttering up my home page on NSC.

Is there a way to filter - anyone?

 

[Wrong-Direction]

Anyway thousands of Russians fleeing Russia so they don't get called up to fight, Russia blowing out pipe lines out at sea, World war 3 around the corner ?

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[rogersix]

Simple question from a slightly cynical 50 something, whose voted for every major party BTW, is the situation being made far worse by the hourly updated shit storm in the media?


I saw Russell Brand on YouTube the other day questioning if we were actually taking ourselves into recession?

do you mean, lets all pretend it's not happening?

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Just how long can The BoE can support the Gilts market before further pressure is put on interest rates and the £ ? Second point is how has K/K got as Chancellor as he seems to be AWOL is it feasible that he could be gone by the end of the years with the markets forcing the issue ?

 

[rogersix]

So long as it's not Mogg... I'm not sure I could withstand that ...

the haunted pencil? maybe he's the one!

 

[jackanada]

Only one thing is certain.
There will still be an incredible number of people adamant that the Conservatives remain the only party to be trusted with the economy.

 

[rogersix]

A couple of years ago we didn't have a government in Sweden for about five or six months. I swear that the air was fresher, the birds were louder and the weather better during those months.

Just dissolve the parliament. No need for new election.

the belgians! they make a habit of it!

 

[The Lemming Stomper]

Just how long can The BoE can support the Gilts market before further pressure is put on interest rates and the £ ? Second point is how has K/K got as Chancellor as he seems to be AWOL is it feasible that he could be gone by the end of the years with the markets forcing the issue ?

Up to the second odds ( Smarkets)

1.43-stays

2.62-gone

By the end of the year

 

[raymondo]

the haunted pencil? maybe he's the one!

Please, no...

 

[Lever]

Only one thing is certain.
There will still be an incredible number of people adamant that the Conservatives remain the only party to be trusted with the economy.

That is the dismal truth..... and some of them post on here.

 

[clapham_gull]

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[Simster]

It seems to me that Conservative party members are doing a lot of the heavy lifting for this complete economic clusterf***

I am not defending them, but I don't think we would be anywhere a situation like this without the quite significant support of the electorate on both the Brexit referendum and then following it up with an 80 seat Johnson majority. But maybe a bit too close to home, so it's definitely their fault

Totally agree. Those who gave the Tories a free hand to implement a terrible Brexit rather than scrutinise the broken promises surrounding leaving the SM and CU, and to Northern Irish unionists are culpable for the current shitshow. They gave an incompetent serial liar an 80 seat majority purely because he said "get Brexit done".

I just wish it was exclusively those Johnson voters carrying the burden of several years of reckless, incompetent economic policy culminating in the laughable f##king shambles of the past week.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Mods….thread title needs changing. Hardly ‘incoming’ is it ?

Deleting would be better

 

[um bongo molongo]

Unfortunately, although I share your disgust, it is perfectly acceptable in our constitution for the party of government to change its leader (and hence the PM) without going to the country. Both parties get on their high horse when the other does it, albeit the tories were the last to say it is 'wrong' for labour to give us a PM who was not 'elected' (Brown); on this and the previous occasion labour have simply demand that we have a GE because the tories are shit.

That said, if Thick Lizzy is ousted it would be unprecedented - no party of government has booted out two of its own leaders in one term of office before.

(My preference would be for the dissolution of parliament and a general election within 3 weeks. Unfortunately this won't happen).

Our ‘constitution’ is really a hodgepodge of laws and rules which works fine while everyone plays by them, but I’d argue Boris’ Trump-like qualities have shown that a lot of this needs re-looking at. A rule that a GE must happen if a party changes leaders is a sensible one, and could easily be added to our ‘constitution’. It would avoid having our PM voted in by a handful of geriatric little englanders (or indeed by a bunch of Red Flag singing leftie loons - with Starmer’s sensibleness, it’s easy to forget that not long ago the other lot saw fit to pick Corbyn as well).

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Our ‘constitution’ is really a hodgepodge of laws and rules which works fine while everyone plays by them, but I’d argue Boris’ Trump-like qualities have shown that a lot of this needs re-looking at. A rule that a GE must happen if a party changes leaders is a sensible one, and could easily be added to our ‘constitution’. It would avoid having our PM voted in by a handful of geriatric little englanders (or indeed by a bunch of Red Flag singing leftie loons - with Starmer’s sensibleness, it’s easy to forget that not long ago the other lot saw fit to pick Corbyn as well).

Oh, well, yes, of course. I agree with all that.



My only point was that Thick Lizzie's party are not obligated to call a GE when they dump her in the sea.

 

[pocketseagull]

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Doesn't feel very reassuring.