[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

While others are pointing out that he mentioned a potential leadership bid, the most striking comment in that interview was that he said 'We made him PM'. By 'we', he's referring to the hardline Brexiters, ERG, etc. That illustrates just how much power and agency they collectively view themselves as holding.

And while everyone's talking about character, personality, and so forth, something else has been going on. Many within the ERG (Baker, Frost, Bridgen) have turned against Johnson citing the policy framework he's delivered. That's because Johnson hasn't delivered the Singapore-on-Thames that they want implemented. That means a flat tax (pay attention [MENTION=1200]Harry Wilson's tackle[/MENTION]), reductions in overall taxation, a privatised NHS, the rest of public services slashed, and so on.

What this actually illustrates is what was blindingly obvious in the first half of 2016: although many thought that the Leave/Remain option on the ballot paper was a binary choice, it wasn't; on the Remain side there was continuity, whille on the Leave side, there were multiple different visions that were articulated, so there was actually a one/many option on the ballot paper.
Now we've been subjected to Brexit, all the leading Brexiters are now basically saying, well this wasn't my vision of Brexit and if only this vision was implemented, all will be right with the world.
More fool those for being led on that particular merry dance. The tragedy is that they were predominantly old, and will leave the young with that mess. Ditto with Johnson. Ditto with the climate crisis.
I keep on saying: we need a different politics, a radically different politics. Those clinging to the notion of the centre are just as culpable as the Brexiters, Tories and Johnson.

Mate, I'm now team STV, and my flat tax plan is more rectangular hyperbola.

The Brexit multiverse is a hydra of insanity. Boris made a deal with the devil when he decided to promise to leave the EU in return for personal power. Withdrawing irreplacable assests from our future with no realistic hope of squaring the impossible circle was an act of evil.

On radio 5 now are Johnson supporters claiming he's brilliant (and indeed accusing Blair of taking us into an illegal war - the same war that May, Johnson and all of them would have taken us too). One of them still weeping over the demise of Thatcher.

The delusion of the strongly motivated remains breathtaking.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

BBC reporting Boris is resigning today, announcement expected around lunchtime

BBC's political editor saying he has taken a call from Downing Street saying the PM will resign

 

[Eric the meek]

I was going to ask who was going to supervise the baby but, to be fair, he's been unsupervised since being London Mayor.

Wilf has been heckling him from the tree house.

 

[BBassic]

I mean. Good news. But if he doesn't have the trust of a lot of the MPs how on earth is he going to govern effectively (as if he's been doing that at all anyways) until October?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Isn't that 'normal' in these circumstances. I think Theresa May did the same.

In her case it was with consent. There is no consent for Johnson continuing until the autumn.

 

[Bozza]

You're right of course. They'll cling on for as long as possible. Can [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] and you get together to ensure as part of your moderating duties that you post every opinion poll in the interim period?

Sorry - what's this got to do with me?

 

[A1X]

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[Bold Seagull]

If Steve Baker gets it we might all be regretting Boris didn't stay!!

 

[RandyWanger]

Popcorn ready.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Let's hope he handles this properly, and with suitable decorum.

Do not, I repeat, DO NOT walk out to the podium during Popmaster Boris.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

In her case it was with consent. There is no consent for Johnson continuing until the autumn.

Post Johnson we need to get back to following protocol. If this is it then so be it.

 

[lawros left foot]

I know someone who works for Ben Wallace in the HOC.

The Tories want Johnson out asap so they can try to win back the Oarty before the Party Conference.


Raab as interim PM?

 

[MJsGhost]

Let's hope he handles this properly, and with suitable decorum.

They say there's a first time for everything, but this might be the exception that proves the rule

 

[BadFish]

Johnson is resigning as tory party leader, but not as prime minister.

****ing hell - he's completely insane!

The BBC are saying the same but I am confused, how can this happen?

Surely if he steps down from the party and that party put him in as PM, one thing would lead to the other?

Or is there something in the process that makes him as an individual PM rather than the leader of the winning party.

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[franks brother]

The worst ever British prime minister finally goes… in disgrace. What a long nightmare that was. Undignified through it all. Huge damage done. A shameful legacy. But today, we can at least be glad he’s gone.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Hopefully this will also be the end of the utter **** Jakob Rees Mogg.

 

[Frutos]

If Steve Baker gets it we might all be regretting Boris didn't stay!!

He seems to be pitching for it on BBC News right now!

 

[Bry Nylon]

Hopefully this will also be the end of the utter **** Jakob Rees Mogg.

And you can add Dorris.N and Truss.L to that list.

 

[BadFish]

Hopefully this will also be the end of the utter **** Jakob Rees Mogg.

He'll probably end up as PM.

Voter's love a toff.

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[A1X]

The BBC are saying the same but I am confused, how can this happen?

Surely if he steps down from the party and that party put him in as PM, one thing would lead to the other?

Or is there something in the process that makes him as an individual PM rather than the leader of the winning party.

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The Prime Minister is in office because they can command a majority of the House of Commons. In a scenario where he cannot do so then the monarch is within their right to sack him and receive a request from someone who can (i.e. the new Tory party leader), whereupon they will become Prime Minister whether Boris likes it or not.