[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[WATFORD zero]

Defo gone after Monday's 1922 meeting.

Just in time for the Eng v Nor game.

Better get your black armband ready for the game then

 

[portlock seagull]

Are there any rules that can do that though?
From what I understand the institution relies on a sense of honour and fear of humiliation to force him into line.
As Mick Lynch pointed out, BJ is unembarrassable.

Unless there is a law, which can be invoked, to remove him from office, he will take the nuclear option.

Precisely. I actually think his Dad and perhaps sister might be the ones that have to tell him the games up. Like some hostage situation where, surrounded by armed Police, family members are sent in under a flag of truce to try and persuade him to surrender before he’s killed.

How? What? Why? It’s come to entertaining this kind of bizarre scenario is just astonishing. Unprecedented in Modern political history. And why, as previously said in this thread, we need to reform politics to protect our system of government from a new breed of ‘democratic’ dictators (Johnson and Trump) because as you said, for hundreds of years it’s been based on a fundamental degree of honour and integrity. But narcissists and sociopaths have none, so we need to be able to remove by force too ie the Police able to arrest and physically remove this toddler even when he’s screaming mid tantrum like this morning.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

Political commentators think he has no way to survive.
He doesn't see it that way.

He has the ability to unilaterally call a general election, as his government is no longer viable.
Johnson will fancy his chances of hoodwinking the electorate again.

Only the Queen could stop it, by appointing another PM.

It would go against the grain, but I think she might..

 

[Simster]

Johnson is a useful idiot. Every now and then that’s how politics rolls. Keep up.

Your autocorrect has misspelt "useless".

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

How will he go?

Are you saying you think Johnson will resign? He hasn’t got it in him to do that, surely?

He'll get the choice to :

(a) resign and may get to stay on as PM until a new leader is elected ( or the Borg Queen may come back as temporary leader ).

(b) get booted out by 1922 rule change and vote by Tuesday ( Steve Baker's line ).

 

[MJsGhost]

Precisely. I actually think his Dad and perhaps sister might be the ones that have to tell him the games up. Like some hostage situation where, surrounded by armed Police, family members are sent in under a flag of truce to try and persuade him to surrender before he’s killed.

How? What? Why? It’s come to entertaining this kind of bizarre scenario is just astonishing. Unprecedented in Modern political history. And why, as previously said in this thread, we need to reform politics to protect our system of government from a new breed of ‘democratic’ dictators (Johnson and Trump) because as you said, for hundreds of years it’s been based on a fundamental degree of honour and integrity. But narcissists and sociopaths have none, so we need to be able to remove by force too ie the Police able to arrest and physically remove this toddler even when he’s screaming mid tantrum like this morning.

Spotted at the gates of Downing St, just before dawn…

 

[Machiavelli]

Could ALL news networks please stop with vox pops from the public. They provide no facts that the public can use. Generally they only provide small snippets of general ignorance. The respondents might even be very well informed but once their answers have been boiled down to five seconds, who knows?

Utterly pointless.

It's hilarious. I listened to R4's 6 o'clock news last night, but an hour or so after broadcast. In it, they had two localised vox pops (one in Sunak's constitutency) which were not only utterly pointless, but smacked of an editorial decision to fill a slot, when there were much more interesting and pressing items that could have filled those slots.

In typing this, however, it does make me wonder how defiant, little ol' GB News has been coping with this week's events and, in particular, what their Yorkshire correspondent has been up to.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

He'll get the choice to :

(a) resign and may get to stay on as PM until a new leader is elected ( or the Borg Queen may come back as temporary leader ).

(b) get booted out by 1922 rule change and vote by Tuesday ( Steve Baker's line ).

1922 Committee playing a dangerous game allowing him time to do the honourable thing.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Seriously? Not a hope in hell.

He's still here....

 

[Hugo Rune]

He'll get the choice to :

(a) resign and may get to stay on as PM until a new leader is elected ( or the Borg Queen may come back as temporary leader ).

(b) get booted out by 1922 rule change and vote by Tuesday ( Steve Baker's line ).

(a) - He can’t resign. It’s not in his makeup.

(b) - I believe it’s the ‘convention’ of a PM to step down if they lose a vote of no confidence. Johnson does not do convention. See (a).

Then:

General election incoming.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Political commentators think he has no way to survive.
He doesn't see it that way.

He has the ability to unilaterally call a general election, as his government is no longer viable.
Johnson will fancy his chances of hoodwinking the electorate again.

Only the Queen could stop it, by appointing another PM.

It would go against the grain, but I think she might..

Indeed.

If the Tories tell the Queen they have a temporary leader ready to take over ( T.May ? ) then a General Election isn't guaranteed, and Johnson still goes.

 

[Eric the meek]

The second half of Boris's tenure has descended into chaos. An utter shambles if it wasn't already.

His government is disintegrating and is surely unable to function. Soon there won't be enough bodies to replace the ones who have jumped ship.

Although it is thoroughly entertaining, this now needs to be brought to a swift end.

 

[clapham_gull]

Nadhim Zahawi makes statement telling the PM to go.

 

[Frutos]

Statement from Nadhim Zahawi, appointed Chancellor on Tuesday, saying that the PM should go.

 

[Springal]

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[nicko31]

Political commentators think he has no way to survive.
He doesn't see it that way.

He has the ability to unilaterally call a general election, as his government is no longer viable.
Johnson will fancy his chances of hoodwinking the electorate again.

Only the Queen could stop it, by appointing another PM.

It would go against the grain, but I think she might..

If Cummins was still around I think he'd have a go.

 

[clapham_gull]

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[Harry Wilson's tackle]

(a) - He can’t resign. It’s not in his makeup.

(b) - I believe it’s the ‘convention’ of a PM to step down if they lose a vote of no confidence. Johnson does not do convention. See (a).

Then:

General election incoming.

I agree. He will trigger a general election if a second confidence vote is held.

Even if he loses a confidence vote he won't resign.

Think of that!

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Indeed.

If the Tories tell the Queen they have a temporary leader ready to take over ( T.May ? ) then a General Election isn't guaranteed, and Johnson still goes.

I think this will be the killer blow. Tory grandees will ‘speak’ with Brenda and ask her to refuse the GE request but insist Government choosing a new leader ….


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[dazzer6666]

I agree. He will trigger a general election if a second confidence vote is held.

Even if he loses a confidence vote he won't resign.

Think of that!

Genuinely wonder whether Her Maj would let him…….would love to be a fly on the wall if he goes in to ask.