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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...
- Thread starter TomandJerry
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What’s he lied about? He doesn’t say anything in that video that I can make out.
I think the inference is 'if that's going for a jog, I've just cycled halfway round the planet'.
nicko31
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DM putting down their own readers, not nice
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
It'll have been a stunt to distract people from another more serious, real issue.
He has genuinely come across as unhinged this weekend. He’s always talked gibberish but that has been deliberate to avoid hard questions. His recent outbursts are Trumpian and a sign, to me at least, that it’s gone beyond an act now and he really is quite mad.
Sorry, I see. I didn’t spot him getting out of the car. Thought he’d come alongside it. God, yes. What an absolute ****.
For all his other faults, I'm fed up of people saying Boris Johnson doesn't really go running regularly and it's all just a stunt for the cameras. Here he is getting a new 5km personal best at a recent ParkRun in Whitehall...
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Anyone else feel old seeing these two grown up?
I’m not sure why people think he’s going to get booted out. Have the last 6 months taught us nothing? Johnson will lead the Tory’s into the next election. And with scaredy cat, Starmer in charge of Labour, the Tory’s will likely win the next GE.
It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. These challenges to his power don’t weaken Johnson, with each failed mutiny he becomes more and more emboldened.
He is going nowhere for a good many years. Britain as you know it? Over. Democracy? Over. Social mobility? Over.
Get used to it.
It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. These challenges to his power don’t weaken Johnson, with each failed mutiny he becomes more and more emboldened.
He is going nowhere for a good many years. Britain as you know it? Over. Democracy? Over. Social mobility? Over.
Get used to it.
The article has now been taken down.
Can’t be upsetting the thick right wing snowflakes.
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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why is that analyis ignoring the supply constraints on Pfizer worldwide, as US restricted exports and Europe didnt have sufficent production capacity? all seem based on a claim "under EU deal doses could be redirected", without any evidence. i wonder which EU nation would have given up their supply. he also makes a false claim about the approval process, which was accelerated by all regulators, EU approved the drug early but dragged out marketing licence.
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Billy the Fish
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Not seen such Bravery!
Stato
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The bluster is really kicking in now:
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-johnson-tories-g7-government-latest-updates
but the mathematics seem to have failed him.
Johnson says: "The mandate that the electorate gave us in 2019, there hasn’t been a mandate like it for the Conservative party for 40 years, it’s a mandate to change the country, to unite and to level up, and that’s what we’re going to do."
Lets put aside the slight quibble in his maths caused by the fact that Thatcher got more seats in 1987, which is only 35 years ago, (and 32 years ago from the time of the election in 2019) and accept that the 29.36% of the electorate that turned out to vote for his party did give a considerable mandate to Johnson worth 365 seats out of a total of 650. In other words, if we skip over the majority complicating factors of the speakers and non-sitting Sinn Fein MPS, upon winning the election, he could assume the support of 365 MPs (56.15% of the total) and that, at most, 285 were against him.
Following By election changes and the confidence vote, Johnson says: "I’ve got a new mandate from my party which I’m absolutely delighted with … it’s done".
Given that he can now assume the guaranteed support of only the 211 Tory MPs who voted for him to remain as leader, the new mandate that he claims is 211 (32.46%) of 650 MPs. Claiming to be 'absolutely delighted' to now be effectively running a minority government, unless he dances to the tune of the tory dissenters, means that either he's lying, he can't count, he's an idiot, or he thinks that we're idiots. (Possibly all four).
In reality, the only two words worth anything in his statement are the last two: "It's done.", but not in the way he says it is.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-johnson-tories-g7-government-latest-updates
but the mathematics seem to have failed him.
Johnson says: "The mandate that the electorate gave us in 2019, there hasn’t been a mandate like it for the Conservative party for 40 years, it’s a mandate to change the country, to unite and to level up, and that’s what we’re going to do."
Lets put aside the slight quibble in his maths caused by the fact that Thatcher got more seats in 1987, which is only 35 years ago, (and 32 years ago from the time of the election in 2019) and accept that the 29.36% of the electorate that turned out to vote for his party did give a considerable mandate to Johnson worth 365 seats out of a total of 650. In other words, if we skip over the majority complicating factors of the speakers and non-sitting Sinn Fein MPS, upon winning the election, he could assume the support of 365 MPs (56.15% of the total) and that, at most, 285 were against him.
Following By election changes and the confidence vote, Johnson says: "I’ve got a new mandate from my party which I’m absolutely delighted with … it’s done".
Given that he can now assume the guaranteed support of only the 211 Tory MPs who voted for him to remain as leader, the new mandate that he claims is 211 (32.46%) of 650 MPs. Claiming to be 'absolutely delighted' to now be effectively running a minority government, unless he dances to the tune of the tory dissenters, means that either he's lying, he can't count, he's an idiot, or he thinks that we're idiots. (Possibly all four).
In reality, the only two words worth anything in his statement are the last two: "It's done.", but not in the way he says it is.
Super Steve Earle
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I have no idea how I will vote come the GE. Tory by nature, but Boris and Sunak don't fit my outlook. Anyone other than Labour would be a wasted vote and I'm not drawn to all the noise Labour makes which seems to have no more substance than Boris is bad - fill in your own reason. So if I think about Labour, why should I vote for them? These are difficult times, so what's in it for me and everybody like me. Apparently Starmer is very honest and law abiding. Apparently 50 odd Labour MP's supported the rail strike ( I never support striking). Support and a promise of restoring the lost income of WASPI women would be a good start (Corbyn promised it, but too late to be believable). Restoring the theft of the Triple Lock Pension increase for this year would help. A plan to actually reduce the impact of the cost of living crisis for all would make a difference. There's a lot of other things an imaginative opposition could float to attract disenchanted Tories, but will we only hear them in a few months before the GE. There is little I like about the Tories at the moment, but apart from 'Not Boris' what does Labour have to offer?