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Bry Nylon

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Putting aside the content, that's appallingly formatted.

If you put absolutely everything in bold and underline every other sentence, then nothing stands out as a key point and you may as well have written everything in regular font with no underlining, or italics.. Times New Roman is also a messy and not easily read font, especially when used in 11 point or below.

Thank god you've said that. It is a horrible document to read - and that is even before you get to the content.
 




Commander

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He's going to get through it, isn't he? I can't see any other outcome.
 




Seasider78

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Whatever happens tonight he is on borrowed time now, the weekend reaction shows his core support is waining and MPs must be sick of having to defend the indefensible on a daily basis. His increasingly desperate and incoherent ramblings at the despatch box show a man who is on the ropes and still trotting out testing systems and fastest growth in the G8 against pretty grim revised forecasts and major U-turns to adopt labours energy windfall tax show a man out of ideas. Added to that the question of misleading parliament and party gate its a wonder he is still in office.

But that is Boris he will cling on kicking and screaming no matter what damage it does to his party or the country until he is dragged out or voted out in the next election.
 


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Normally agree with you on pretty much most things (and agree 100% on the vaccine rollout and his general ineptness) - and I desperately want him gone - but don't underestimate how much military support the UK has given and continues to give Ukraine.

No, no, I agree. The UK has given huge amounts of kit to Ukraine. However I'm not giving any special credit to Johnson for this. All he did was sign the cheque. My point in that regard was that the chap on the radio was saying Johnson is a winner in part because they love him in Ukraine, as if this is reason for us in the UK to back him. The whole narrative is to ignore all the bad things he does and give him credit for anything positive associated with the UK, whether Johnson was instrumental or not.

If we were looking for a real example of leadership, as opposed to simply signing another cheque (which he has been more than happy to do - using taxpayers' money - much to the chagrin of many on the tory right), Johnson would have petitioned to define the contingency for when the troops should be sent into Russia. Instead he delayed long enough over sanctions to allow all of those with money tied up in Russia and, (allegedly) all the Russians with money tied up with tories, to get their affairs in order.

No, the man is a chancer, a ruthless gaslighter. People love it, of course. Winner. We have the worst Covid death rate in Europe and yet to many he is a Covid vaccine hero.

Cast your mind to the last part of Lord of the Flies. When the adults turned up they thought they had found resourceful children surviving and at play. In fact they had formed a mob and were about to kill the peculiar boy. At some point, we will get our country back with an honourable leader, an 'adult', and some of us will look back at when the Johnson gang ran the show and think - wow. How the **** did that happen? Others may look at their hands and wonder how close they came to having the nation's blood on them. Others will of course bimble on regardless. I quite like that analogy and will revisit it the day after Johnson goes.
 






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TomandJerry

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Former Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt, tipped as a possible leadership contender, has said he will be voting "for change" in this evening's ballot.

Hunt says he wanted to avoid a confidence vote during the Ukraine war, but the party must now decide its future.

"Having been trusted with power, Conservative MPs know in our hearts we are not giving the British people the leadership they deserve," he says.

"We are not offering the integrity, competence and vision necessary to unleash the enormous potential of our country.

"And because we are no longer trusted by the electorate, who know this too, we are set to lose the next general election."

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Dick Swiveller

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Twitter is suggesting I follow Count Binface. I think he might be preferable.
 


essbee1

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No, no, I agree. The UK has given huge amounts of kit to Ukraine. However I'm not giving any special credit to Johnson for this. All he did was sign the cheque. My point in that regard was that the chap on the radio was saying Johnson is a winner in part because they love him in Ukraine, as if this is reason for us in the UK to back him. The whole narrative is to ignore all the bad things he does and give him credit for anything positive associated with the UK, whether Johnson was instrumental or not.

If we were looking for a real example of leadership, as opposed to simply signing another cheque (which he has been more than happy to do - using taxpayers' money - much to the chagrin of many on the tory right), Johnson would have petitioned to define the contingency for when the troops should be sent into Russia. Instead he delayed long enough over sanctions to allow all of those with money tied up in Russia and, (allegedly) all the Russians with money tied up with tories, to get their affairs in order.

No, the man is a chancer, a ruthless gaslighter. People love it, of course. Winner. We have the worst Covid death rate in Europe and yet to many he is a Covid vaccine hero.

Cast your mind to the last part of Lord of the Flies. When the adults turned up they thought they had found resourceful children surviving and at play. In fact they had formed a mob and were about to kill the peculiar boy. At some point, we will get our country back with an honourable leader, an 'adult', and some of us will look back at when the Johnson gang ran the show and think - wow. How the **** did that happen? Others may look at their hands and wonder how close they came to having the nation's blood on them. Others will of course bimble on regardless. I quite like that analogy and will revisit it the day after Johnson goes.

Great post Harry.
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Another delusional one..

Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey tells the BBC she expects Boris Johnson to be endorsed by Tory MPs with a "significant majority" this evening.

She says MPs "won’t want the chaos of some destructive, divisive leadership contest in the next few months".

Echoing other supporters, Coffey says Johnson has got the "big calls" right on issues such as Covid vaccines and "standing up to Putin".

Asked about polling that suggests 55% of Conservative voters feel the PM is not trustworthy, she says he is focused on the strategic issues.

Coffey says she believes Johnson is trustworthy. "He delivers on the promises he's made to people," she insists.

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A number of MPs will be hedging their bets though. The Conservatives have a habit of punishing the plotters after replacing the leader.

No idea what will happen tonight but I think everyone will be surprised by the amount of MPs voting against him.
 




Bry Nylon

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John Penrose MP, Johnson's Anti-corruption Champion at the Home Office, has just resigned his position, stating the Prime Minister has breached the Ministerial Code.

Drip drip drip...
 


essbee1

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John Penrose MP, Johnson's Anti-corruption Champion at the Home Office, has just resigned his position, stating the Prime Minister has breached the Ministerial Code.

Drip drip drip...

This is getting better by the second.
 








pb21

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These letters from MPs are very damning aren't they?

People aren't hedging their bets and keeping their cards close to their chest. There is clearly a wide and massive loss of confidence in the PM from the Party.

I can't see how he can stay on...
 


Bry Nylon

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These letters from MPs are very damning aren't they?

People aren't hedging their bets and keeping their cards close to their chest. There is clearly a wide and massive loss of confidence in the PM from the Party.

I can't see how he can stay on...

Yup. Normally these type of "Dear Prime Minister" letters focus on policy differences, which happens. But these all tend to be about integrity, honour and principles - far harder to defend as it goes to the heart of the PMs character.
 






Thunder Bolt

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John Penrose MP, Johnson's Anti-corruption Champion at the Home Office, has just resigned his position, stating the Prime Minister has breached the Ministerial Code.

Drip drip drip...

That's Dido Harding's husband.
 


Bry Nylon

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"Good news Boris."

"Ah - we've nailed down 181 votes for tonight?"

"No. Pickfords can do Tuesday."
 


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