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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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I hate/love to say “I told you so” but I posted last week, he needs to be boo’d and jeered everywhere he goes. To show his party he is not wanted. And I believe the booing at the Jubilee has been the catalyst for this vote of no confidence. The man needs to be shown he is not welcome.
 




essbee1

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Jun 25, 2014
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Tories attacking Tories....

Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries has launched an extraordinary attack on her fellow Conservative and widely tipped leadership contender Jeremy Hunt.

Dorries accuses him of telling her the government would "swiftly collapse" after Brexit and he would "swoop in".

"You’ve been wrong about almost everything, you are wrong again now"

Dorries adds that when she was a health minister, Hunt told her the government should follow the pandemic response of China and other countries, with mandatory two-week stays in quarantine hotels for infected people.

She says he demanded evidence that British people would never accept being forcibly separated from their loved ones. "Your handling of the pandemic would have been a disaster," she says.





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Just shows how f*****g thick she is.
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Good to see Jeremy Hunt sticking the knife in.

It's a hope - perhaps a fool's hope - but he could be gone today.

He could actually be gone today.
 


Berty23

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Jun 26, 2012
3,643
This is at least entertaining lol

Hunt is awful as well.


Nadine Dorries
@NadineDorries
1/4 On afternoon of 23rd July 2020 when I was health minister you telephoned me to tell me that we had to handle the pandemic following the example set by the East/China. That people testing + should be removed from their homes and placed into isolation hotels for two weeks.

2/4You said yr wife’s family had experience of this during SARS. I said that British people would never tolerate being removed from their homes and loved ones at which point you demanded I show you the evidence for that. Your handling of the pandemic would have been a disaster.

3/4 Your pandemic preparation during six years as health secretary was found wanting and inadequate.Your duplicity right now in destabilising the party and country to serve your own personal ambition, more so.

4/4You told others that PM and Gov would swiftly collapse on back of Brexit and you would swoop in. You told me as much in Victoria St after GE. If you had been leader you’d have handed the keys of No10 to Corbyn. You’ve been wrong about almost everything, you are wrong again now
11:51 AM · Jun 6, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

This is nuts.

On one hand she goes on about how boris rolled out the vaccine. In another she criticises ex health Secretary for not being ready. So does this mean that hunt was not part of the tory party and was solely responsible for failures? Or maybe boris not responsible for the vaccine? But overall criticising your own party’s preparation in this way is batshit crazy
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
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And Rees-Mogg claimed that the fact that Johnson received “a little bit of booing” when he arrived at St Paul’s Cathedral for the service for the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee was “perfectly normal”.

When Sky News played the clip to him, he accused them of turning up the volume to make it sound worse than it was.

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Folderol was the word he used, which shows how much the Cabinet is in touch with the people.
I hope Boris is folderol later this evening.
 






Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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We know that Boris is capable of falling on his sword, witness his withdrawal from the leadership race when leading in the polls after being knifed in the back by Gove. However, I don't see that happening now because there is no other obvious challenger.

However, if he remains in power I don't think the British people will react well, and they will punish the Tories in the upcoming by-elections. Boris will be banking on electoral memory loss plus tax cuts to buy him the next GE, and will be hoping for some Labour / Lib Dem own goals along the way.

I think he will win tonight's vote by c. 240-120 and will limp on through the by-elections. However, we could see a large number of resignations as Tory MPs seek to flee the sinking ship, and this could mean more by-elections.

The bottom line is he's a lame duck PM and we'll have to put up with him for another 2 years before he'll get trounced in the next GE.
 


Madafwo

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Nov 11, 2013
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I hate/love to say “I told you so” but I posted last week, he needs to be boo’d and jeered everywhere he goes. To show his party he is not wanted. And I believe the booing at the Jubilee has been the catalyst for this vote of no confidence. The man needs to be shown he is not welcome.

So, what you're saying is, if he goes we've got you to thank?
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Former Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt, tipped as a possible leadership contender, has said he will be voting "for change" in this evening's ballot.

Hunt says he wanted to avoid a confidence vote during the Ukraine war, but the party must now decide its future.

"Having been trusted with power, Conservative MPs know in our hearts we are not giving the British people the leadership they deserve," he says.

"We are not offering the integrity, competence and vision necessary to unleash the enormous potential of our country.

"And because we are no longer trusted by the electorate, who know this too, we are set to lose the next general election."

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This is nuts.

On one hand she goes on about how boris rolled out the vaccine. In another she criticises ex health Secretary for not being ready. So does this mean that hunt was not part of the tory party and was solely responsible for failures? Or maybe boris not responsible for the vaccine? But overall criticising your own party’s preparation in this way is batshit crazy

She’s like an obsessed lover.

I think the point she was making was that his comments about if he was in charge there wouldn’t have been lockdowns, was rubbish - he wanted more.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
Up to us with Tory MPs to now pile the pressure on today with emails to ditch the disgrace.

My own MP is very well aware how I feel about Johnson lol.
 








darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
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Good to see Jeremy Hunt sticking the knife in.

It's a hope - perhaps a fool's hope - but he could be gone today.

He could actually be gone today.

I wish I could share in your hope, but I don't.

I think Boris will win the vote and perversely use this as indictment that he is doing a great job!

We will then have to listen to him telling us it's "time to move on" and "to get on with the important things". We will also be treated to his toadie sycophants telling us at every opportunity that Boris gets the "big calls right", whatever that means, repeated ad nauseum until the idiots believe it...
 




Clive Walker

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Jul 5, 2011
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Brighton
Can anyone more ITK than me advise whether we should expect a close call or not? I’m of the thinking that BJ will be heavily backed.
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Can anyone more ITK than me advise whether we should expect a close call or not? I’m of the thinking that BJ will be heavily backed.
The number of votes against Boris Johnson tonight is most likely to fall within the 100 to 149 bracket, according to the odds offered by Ladbrokes. This is what they are offering.

0-49 - 66/1

50-99 - 3/1

100-149 - 15/8

150-199 - 2/1

200-249 - 5/1

250-299 - 16/1

300+ - 100/1

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rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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commented on radio this morning, there is no organiser or coordination. this on one hand makes it organic as you say, on the other hand probably weak rebellion. unless something drastically happend today Johnson will probably limp on. it what he does, get away with it.

i think it gives the rebellion strenghth. there's nothing for johnson to focus on, no lie to lie, no deal to be done
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Good to see Jeremy Hunt sticking the knife in.

It's a hope - perhaps a fool's hope - but he could be gone today.

He could actually be gone today.

I wonder if Gove will have another stab at becoming PM? The first wound would be in Johnson’s back (next to the scar of a previous attack) and might be incoming very soon?
 




FloatLeft

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Jun 12, 2012
1,632
Boris will survive the confidence vote.

Life will go on.

He’ll eventually be replaced.

His replacement (Labour, Tory, other) will also eventually be called dishonest/corrupt/inept/war criminal/etc (delete as appropriate)

They will be replaced.

Ad infinitum.
 


rogersix

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Jan 18, 2014
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I remember the promise " To Build a new Nuclear power station a year " when it came up from Johnson at PMQ's.....quite incredulous really and he should have been pulled up on it. As we know, it takes many years to build and commission one and, if one could actually be built in a year, how safe would that be ?

i assumed he was refering to the tiny rolls royce nuclear power plants that fit in a shipping container
 


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