[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[A1X]

The Tories, you really have got to love them.

Lord Frost claims rising temperatures will help Britain

Rising temperatures are “likely to be beneficial” for Britain as more people die from the cold than the heat, Lord Frost has told peers. The right-wing former B

www.thetimes.co.uk

Let’s see how he and his fellow travelers deal with the massive increase in immigration of people forced out of other parts of the world and rocking up in Kent as a result of climate change.

My gut feel is “badly”.

 

[Hugo Rune]

The Tories, you really have got to love them.

Lord Frost claims rising temperatures will help Britain

Rising temperatures are “likely to be beneficial” for Britain as more people die from the cold than the heat, Lord Frost has told peers. The right-wing former B

www.thetimes.co.uk

Lord Frost? Daft c***.

 

[Machiavelli]

New North Sea oil and gas licences will send ‘wrecking ball’ through climate commitments

Tory MP and environmental groups criticise Rishi Sunak’s announcement of 100 new licences

www.theguardian.com

Two things on this:
1, the approach of the right on the climate crisis now appears to be to defy logic. Sunak has effectively said red is blue in justifying this decision, through claiming that this approval of licences will help the UK arrive at net zero.
2, if anyone knows the length of how long these licences are granted for and whether the state can overturn them (note that Labour's current policy is not to grant these licences), then I'd be grateful. Any new investment in FF as we approach 2050 risks stranded assets, and my suspicion is that Sunak will be doing all that he can to assist chums in the oil and gas industries -- potentially ahead of a position on the board in a year or two's time.

 

[RandyWanger]

Man bought private jet with borrowed council money

Leaked documents show businessman went on a spending spree and left a council effectively bankrupt.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[nicko31]

New North Sea oil and gas licences will send ‘wrecking ball’ through climate commitments

Tory MP and environmental groups criticise Rishi Sunak’s announcement of 100 new licences

www.theguardian.com

Two things on this:
1, the approach of the right on the climate crisis now appears to be to defy logic. Sunak has effectively said red is blue in justifying this decision, through claiming that this approval of licences will help the UK arrive at net zero.
2, if anyone knows the length of how long these licences are granted for and whether the state can overturn them (note that Labour's current policy is not to grant these licences), then I'd be grateful. Any new investment in FF as we approach 2050 risks stranded assets, and my suspicion is that Sunak will be doing all that he can to assist chums in the oil and gas industries -- potentially ahead of a position on the board in a year or two's time.

Sunak is betraying his Indian ancestral heritage where hundreds of millions of people live in poverty.

Such people will be the first to suffer as climate change gets worse.

Today’s announcement in my book makes him a climate criminal.

It’s also dumb, it won’t give us cheaper bills or give our energy security. We need to start pay the true cost of energy production, not what fossil fuel giants feel like charging us.

 

[Acker79]

 

[nicko31]

It probably is a coincidence. Sunak just doesn’t give f&&k about net zero.

Investors will vote with their feet, Britain the dirty man of the developed world

Billionaire rethinking new UK green investment after Sunak backs ‘failed tech’ carbon capture

Andrew Forrest accuses government of ‘putting Britain’s hopes [on] failed technology.’

www.politico.eu

 

[Jim in the West]

It probably is a coincidence. Sunak just doesn’t give f&&k about the zero.

Investors will vote with their feet, Britain the dirty man of the developed world

Billionaire rethinking new UK green investment after Sunak backs ‘failed tech’ carbon capture

Andrew Forrest accuses government of ‘putting Britain’s hopes [on] failed technology.’

www.politico.eu

It is absolutely sickening what is happening in the UK at the moment. I acknowledge all the antipathy towards Just Stop Oil, but we seriously need to do something different - I’m getting VERY worried about the world we are going to leave for our kids. It’s looking bleak.

 

[chickens]

It probably is a coincidence. Sunak just doesn’t give f&&k about the zero.

Investors will vote with their feet, Britain the dirty man of the developed world

Billionaire rethinking new UK green investment after Sunak backs ‘failed tech’ carbon capture

Andrew Forrest accuses government of ‘putting Britain’s hopes [on] failed technology.’

www.politico.eu

Precisely this. The Conservative Party are trying to present their backsliding as “pragmatic” and “grown-up” decision making.

It’s not, we look like we’re backward. These decisions make us far more part of the problem than part of the solution, and with the added paperwork that comes from not being part of the EU bloc, plus a crumbling underinvested in infrastructure, we are looking deeply unattractive as a destination for investment.

This government continues to harm us nationally, and on the international stage, at both state and corporation level.

I’d have expected this level of moronic rabble-rousing from a UKIP government, that the British Conservative Party has fallen so low is a genuine danger to us, as historically they’ve been either in government or main opposition.

My only hope post the next election is that enough decent Conservatives (who aren’t normally swing voters) have seen what their party has become and abandons them. It’s a big ask, their vote is traditionally sticky and goes where it’s led.

 

[nicko31]

It is absolutely sickening what is happening in the UK at the moment. I acknowledge all the antipathy towards Just Stop Oil, but we seriously need to do something different - I’m getting VERY worried about the world we are going to leave for our kids. It’s looking bleak.

To be honest the amount we get out of the North Sea makes very little difference to the world, but the broader optics from the worlds 6th largest economy is terrible.

Im not anti carbon capture and it should be part of our overall plan, but it’s early days. This will also make our energy a lot more expensive, no one mentions this.

Sunak’s only real plan is short term and trying to make net zero a wedge issue. Shame on you man, Johnson was a serial liar but even he wouldn’t be doing this

 

[Springal]

And of course the local fire brigade won’t sign off the barges due to lack of suitable fire escapes / exits

 

[Thunder Bolt]

To be honest the amount we get out of the North Sea makes very little difference to the world, but the broader optics from the worlds 6th largest economy is terrible.

Im not anti carbon capture and it should be part of our overall plan, but it’s early days. This will also make our energy a lot more expensive, no one mentions this.

Sunak’s only real plan is short term and trying to make net zero a wedge issue. Shame on you man, Johnson was a serial liar but even he wouldn’t be doing this

Sunak’s plan is for his wife to make more money.

 

[keaton]

Anti-protest laws and culture wars weakening UK’s democracy, finds report

Thinktanks say the check and balances of civil society such as judges and campaigners are under ‘political attack’ by ministers

www.theguardian.com

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

To be honest the amount we get out of the North Sea makes very little difference to the world, but the broader optics from the worlds 6th largest economy is terrible.

Im not anti carbon capture and it should be part of our overall plan, but it’s early days. This will also make our energy a lot more expensive, no one mentions this.

Sunak’s only real plan is short term and trying to make net zero a wedge issue. Shame on you man, Johnson was a serial liar but even he wouldn’t be doing this

Labour not planning to over turn it, they will hopefully be in power in a year or so, seems pretty easy to over turn.

They don't want to.



No one is being honest about the cost and what it's going to take in the UK to reach next zero in a few years.

People voting to be worse off isn't going to happen all the time China/India etc are taking the Piss, if it was seen as a massive vote winner Labour would be saying they are overturning it.

Labour don't want to annoy the unions either.

 

[Jim in the West]

I think one of the issues for Labour is that it needs to be seen as a credible governing party, and whilst it could probably legislate to break contracts previously entered into, that doesn't look good. There are other ways that Labour can deal with the issue.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I think one of the issues for Labour is that it needs to be seen as a credible governing party, and whilst it could probably legislate to break contracts previously entered into, that doesn't look good. There are other ways that Labour can deal with the issue.

At the moment, Labour don't want to give the Tories any ammunition. They used ULEZ against them, even though they introduced it.
Starmer is playing his cards very close to his chest until it is time for a general election.

 

[Machiavelli]

At the moment, Labour don't want to give the Tories any ammunition. They used ULEZ against them, even though they introduced it.
Starmer is playing his cards very close to his chest until it is time for a general election.

I hope you're right, and agree with Jim that things might start to change once they've had a few years in office.

 

[Machiavelli]

Labour not planning to over turn it, they will hopefully be in power in a year or so, seems pretty easy to over turn.

They don't want to.



No one is being honest about the cost and what it's going to take in the UK to reach next zero in a few years.

People voting to be worse off isn't going to happen all the time China/India etc are taking the Piss, if it was seen as a massive vote winner Labour would be saying they are overturning it.

Labour don't want to annoy the unions either.

Can you be honest about:
1, the cost of renewables currently
2, the direction of travel of the cost of renewables
3, the cost of gas and oil currently
4, which of these are cheapest
5, the roll[-out of air-source heat pumps in the UK vis-a-vis our neighbours in Europe
6, which countries have historically pumped out the most carbon emissions

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I think one of the issues for Labour is that it needs to be seen as a credible governing party, and whilst it could probably legislate to break contracts previously entered into, that doesn't look good. There are other ways that Labour can deal with the issue

If it was see as a big sway to win votes they would announce a reverse, we get a very London centric view on news.

I'm not sure it's seen as a big vote winner elsewhere in the country, I assume that's why Labour are trying not to Rock the boat in either direction currently.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Can you be honest about:
1, the cost of renewables currently
2, the direction of travel of the cost of renewables
3, the cost of gas and oil currently
4, which of these are cheapest
5, the roll[-out of air-source heat pumps in the UK vis-a-vis our neighbours in Europe
6, which countries have historically pumped out the most carbon emissions

I'm still waiting for a response from you after you called me an anti vax?

You vanished pretty quickly, let me know when you get a chance to reply to the post.