[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Thunder Bolt]

Hardly toothless, they fine broadcasters all the time.

I think viewers also need to separate their political beliefs what they disagree with on screen.

There is also nothing to stop someone launching a left of centre "news" (or not) channel.

@Ofcom
rules are clear. MPs may not present the news or conduct political interviews.

 

[clapham_gull]

@Ofcom
rules are clear. MPs may not present the news or conduct political interviews.

If selectively quoted....

Politicians of ALL sides are quite happy to selectively quote to make the argument fit.

The actual rule (from the Broadcast Code) is:

“No politician may be used as a newsreader, interviewer or reporter in any news programmes unless, exceptionally, it is editorially justified. In that case, the political allegiance of that person must be made clear to the audience.”

GBNews would just argue the programmes in question aren't news and "current affairs" programmes aren't defined as news. in fact they are called out as NOT being "news".

They are supposed to present a "wide range of views". GBNews could equally argue a wide range of views are presented, even if those are from a right wing perspective that can't agree that whether lockdown was a good thing or not.

They know what they are doing.

The media landscape (and public opinion) is changing faster than the rules can cover.

You have to remember that platforms in the UK like GBNews are very new things. It will take time for the Broadcast Code to be updated, it won't happen overnight and neither should it.

 

[nicko31]

That's the problem. The media landscape (and public opinion) is changing faster than the rules.

The actual rule (from the Broadcast Code) is:

“No politician may be used as a newsreader, interviewer or reporter in any news programmes unless, exceptionally, it is editorially justified. In that case, the political allegiance of that person must be made clear to the audience.”

GBNews would just argue the programmes in question aren't news. They know what they are doing (unfortunately)

Of course if the government had their way we'd have Dacre as Chair of Ofcom to pave the way for a full blooded Fox News channel, Daily Mail TV!!

We need to give our heads a wobble and take a look at where Fox News has taken the US, its all went to shit in 1987 when Reagan burned down the regulation not dissimilar to what we have with Ofcom today.

After Jan 6 Fox wanted to put the genie back in the bottle, but its too late now. They created a rump of conspiracy theory nutcases, their business model now relies on it. Cue the court case with Dominion Voting ...

 

[rippleman]

Which is why I called them toothless.

Just like OfGen (mission statement "to protect the most vulnerable in society") did nothing to stop the never-ending energy price hikes.

The "Ofs" are just quangos dancing to the tune of their political masters.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Just like OfGen (mission statement "to protect the most vulnerable in society") did nothing to stop the never-ending energy price hikes.

The "Ofs" are just quangos dancing to the tune of their political masters.

Yep. I had more help with my erroneous transfer from the CAB, than anything Ofgen did.

 

[Javeaseagull]

edited out, got it wrong

 

[rippleman]

Sunak and the Tory front bench couldn't keep a straight face when he started PMQs by saying that the Conservative party had been "delivering for the British people". But then they are mostly millionaires so can afford to find the current crisis a bit of a giggle.

 

[West Hoathly Seagull]

Jess Philips held his feet to the fire over trafficked women and the Modern Slavery Act. He basically said nothing in reply.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Already seen that live thanks, but there aren't and "news" programmes on the channel and that's where the rules apply.

The rules clearly need to change, but I'm not sure there is a lot Ofcom can do at the moment.

'Announced in September 2020 and launched in June 2021 from studios at Paddington Basin, London, the channel became Britain's first television news start-up for more than 30 years, since the launch of Sky News in 1989.[1] It was set up with the aim of broadcasting "original news, opinion and debate", with a mix of news coverage and opinion-based content.' (wiki)

A chat with the Chancellor on Budget day, on a 'news start-up', isn't exactly going to be 'opinion-based content', is it?

 

[clapham_gull]

'Announced in September 2020 and launched in June 2021 from studios at Paddington Basin, London, the channel became Britain's first television news start-up for more than 30 years, since the launch of Sky News in 1989.[1] It was set up with the aim of broadcasting "original news, opinion and debate", with a mix of news coverage and opinion-based content.' (wiki)

A chat with the Chancellor on Budget day, on a 'news start-up', isn't exactly going to be 'opinion-based content', is it?

Ofcom would look at individual programmes rather than the name of the channel. The output of GB"News" is quite marked, they don't run a "news" bulletin.

I tuned in first day fascinated to see what it would be like, I was disappointed. It's quite clear they know the rules and that's probably why they don't.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Nanny will be cross with 'little' Jacob for this!!

Jacob Rees-Mogg says forgetful women 'don't remember' to pay licence fee

Tory MPs are seeking revenge on the BBC after it announced Gary Lineker will be allowed to return to TV screens next weekend following a row over his criticism of the government

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Randy McNob]

 

[Pevenseagull]

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Yeah, but they have said, 'stop the boats' a lot.

 

[The Clamp]

Hardly toothless, they fine broadcasters all the time.

I think viewers also need to separate their political beliefs what they disagree with on screen.

There is also nothing to stop someone launching a left of centre "news" (or not) channel.

Well there is, isn’t there;

Morality
Decency
Honesty
Integrity
Legality
Dignity

 

[Machiavelli]

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I've been pondering what they've achieved in the last 13 years. Brexit, obviously. I'm sure a Tory wouldn't come up with that list, despite most being accurate, but I do wonder what a Tory would identify as to what they've achieved in those 13 years.

 

[Bodian]

Yeah, but they have said, 'stop the boats' a lot.

And 'Stop the Boats' appears to be having a positive effect for them in the Red Wall seats. Which is presumably what their policy is all about.

 

[nicko31]

And 'Stop the Boats' appears to be having a positive effect for them in the Red Wall seats. Which is presumably what their policy is all about.

Don't worry about the 1% getting a huge pension tax break, there a rubber dingy and they're coming for you.

 

[The Clamp]

The people are easily fooled. Brexit confirmed that. Once the Tory’s got away with that lie, they knew the door was never closing.

 

[Machiavelli]

The people are easily fooled. Brexit confirmed that. Once the Tory’s got away with that lie, they knew the door was never closing.

That's right. The people are easily fooled, apart from you.

 

[Machiavelli]

UK ‘will be only G20 economy apart from Russia to shrink this year’

High inflation, energy crisis and low productivity hinder recovery, says OECD

www.theguardian.com