[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[chickens]

Presenting a show like that isn't a full time job unless there are other jobs to do during the week or in the summer.

I worked in production years ago for a very small company. When the production ended, I was looking for something else.

I'm not defending what has become of the media industry, but generally those you see on screen are either working for an independent production company or pulled in and out of the broadcaster when need be. The difference would be journalists and news presenters who are working longer hours behind the scenes and are on air a lot more than the presenter of MOTD.

In the modern world it appear to me really strange for a presenter of a once a week show following the football season to be "staff".

Yup, the BBC can’t have it both ways. Either it wants to be his exclusive employer, bring him onboard as a full-time employee and adhere to its strict impartiality rules, or it hires him as a freelancer for a specific show and accepts he has other gigs, he’s responsible for his own brand, and he says what he likes.

If that makes him unemployable for the BBC, then I’d be disappointed, but the BBC are being led by a Conservative Party plant atm, and where’s the impartiality there?

 

[Is it PotG?]

 

[chickens]

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He’s a freelancer, not an employee. He’s responsible for his own brand. The BBC would be pilloried if it paid GL enough for him to give up all his other gigs. The BBC isn’t a competitive employer, and that’s by the current government’s design.

 

[Is it PotG?]

He’s a freelancer, not an employee. He’s responsible for his own brand. The BBC would be pilloried if it paid GL enough for him to give up all his other gigs. The BBC isn’t a competitive employer, and that’s by the current government’s design.

Still, I'm sure he's still giving bed and board to many hapless souls arriving on these shores, his salary from the Beeb allows him that Shirley?

 

[clapham_gull]

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The major problem with that opinion is seemingly doesn't apply to presenters like Andrew Neil or Michael Portillo.

Andrew Neil (another brilliant broadcaster like Lineker) is the other side of the political coin. Managing in his presenting life to be completely impartial but on social media and his other media jobs to be very much of the "right".

The Government can't have it both ways.

I'm intelligent to separate the public service Lineker and Neil from their private incarnations.

Are you ?

A veteran shock jock like Brewer knows that damn well, but if she wasn't able to post what she doesn't actually believe she wouldn't have a career.

 

[Is it PotG?]

The major problem with that opinion is seemingly doesn't apply to presenters like Andrew Neil or Michael Portillo.

Andrew Neil (another brilliant broadcaster like Lineker) is the other side of the political coin. Managing in his presenting life to be completely impartial but on social media and his other media jobs to be very much of the "right".

The Government can't have it both ways.

I'm intelligent to seperate the public service Lineker and Neil from their private incarnations.

Are you ?

Which BBC show is Neil on again?

 

[chickens]

Still, I'm sure he's still giving bed and board to many hapless souls arriving on these shores, his salary from the Beeb allows him that Shirley?

He’s certainly helped people in the past. I don’t obsessively follow his life so I’ve no idea whether he still is, but still better to have done something than nothing, no?

 

[Is it PotG?]

He’s certainly helped people in the past. I don’t obsessively follow his life so I’ve no idea whether he still is, but still better to have done something than nothing, no?

I'm sure in a world where the lives of the wealthy with big houses are scrutinised and criticised on a regular basis, then an empty statement from the comfort of your vast and expensive wine cellar must be taken with a pinch of salt.

 

[clapham_gull]

Which BBC show is Neil on again?

Seriously ?

He presented the post Question Time This Week and the Daily Politics for years.

I'd have to say quite brilliantly.

However at the same time he was seemingly free to post whatever right of centre political viewpoint he desired on social media whilst editing the very right of centre Spectator magazine.

Attacking Lineker (a football presenter not a political journalist) and not looking at what Neil was allowed to get away with is hypocrisy of the highest level.

Personally I'm comfortable with both.

This has nothing to do with impartiality, it's about a Government in crisis. If they weren't in such disarray none of them would care a jot.

 

[rogersix]

Which BBC show is Neil on again?

pointless

 

[Is it PotG?]

pointless

Which episode? Recently?

 

[BadFish]

So is the whole Gary Lineker an example of woke cancel culture and people being offended by opinions?

 

[rogersix]

I'm sure in a world where the lives of the wealthy with big houses are scrutinised and criticised on a regular basis, then an empty statement from the comfort of your vast and expensive wine cellar must be taken with a pinch of salt.

bitter much?

 

[A1X]

 

[Is it PotG?]

bitter much?

In English? That sounds like a dog food.

 

[chickens]

I'm sure in a world where the lives of the wealthy with big houses are scrutinised and criticised on a regular basis, then an empty statement from the comfort of your vast and expensive wine cellar must be taken with a pinch of salt.

On the contrary, we go where we’re led. Today we’re talking about Gary Lineker, a TV personality across multiple channels who has spoken out on behalf of refugees and against a current government proposal. That is his right.

He is self-employed, he has exercised his right as a British citizen to publicise his views. Surely you’re not arguing against freedom of speech?

 

[Is it PotG?]

On the contrary, we go where we’re led. Today we’re talking about Gary Lineker, a TV personality across multiple channels who has spoken out on behalf of refugees and against a current government proposal. That is his right.

He is self-employed, he has exercised his right as a British citizen to publicise his views. Surely you’re not arguing against freedom of speech?

No mate. You keep playing the 'self-employed' card when he earns over a mill on one of the highest viewed progs.

Desperate.

 

[A1X]

Still, I'm sure he's still giving bed and board to many hapless souls arriving on these shores, his salary from the Beeb allows him that Shirley?

What does that have to do with anything? Is Lineker demanding we all take immigrants into our own homes bow or something? Only if not that particular jibe doesn’t seem at all relevant.

 

[rogersix]

In English? That sounds like a dog food.

marcus rashford's got a bob or two, he said something about food the other day

 

[A1X]

No mate. You keep playing the 'self-employed' card when he earns over a mill on one of the highest viewed progs.

Desperate.

There he is, just using facts to make your argument look bad…